TSN: Getting drafted by Sens would be 'extra special' for 67s sharpshooter Quinn

[Sens of Anarchy]

I have Quinn in the 12-17 tier at this time. The order within the tier may vary .. but I think all these guys belong in the same tier

12	Dawson Mercer
13	Jack Quinn
14	Rodion Amirov
15	Noel Gunler
16	Seth Jarvis
17	Dylan Holloway

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The obvious concerns with Quinn are his age. He is almost a draft year older than prospects ranked above him. Everyone in this tier is a late birthday (Sept/Oct 2001) except Jarvis (Feb 2002). So if age is a factor its a common factor in this tier.
Quinn's goal to assist ratio could be more balanced. 52 g , 37 a. Quinn had 10 primary assists at even strength.
Quinn played on one of if not the strongest team in the CHL and he played on a 2nd line. Teams would have necessarily focused on Rossi as much as they could

I will say I really like Quinn. He seems like a really nice kid and a good valley boy to boot. He showed very nice abilities to generate offense for himself and he was responsible defensively. Even strength goals for and against when he's on the ice 77 34. For comparison Rossi was 103 and 35.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Wherever we’d be happy with drafting Mercer, Bourque, Holloway, Jarvis and Zary, so ~12-20 imo

 

[Sweatred]

I have Quinn in the 12-17 tier at this time. The order within the tier may vary .. but I think all these guys belong in the same tier

12	Dawson Mercer
13	Jack Quinn
14	Rodion Amirov
15	Noel Gunler
16	Seth Jarvis
17	Dylan Holloway

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In addition these players all probably go before Quinn (in no order) . He realistically could fall to NYI and I think we still may pass.

1. Alexis Lafreniere
2. Lucas Raymond
3. Quinton Byfield
4. Tim Stützle
5. Alexander Holtz
6. Jamie Drysdale
7. Anton Lundell
8. Marco Rossi
9. Cole Perfetti
10. Jake Sanderson
11. Guhle
12. Schneider
13. Askarov
14. Lapierre

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

In addition these players all probably go before Quinn (in no order) . He realistically could fall to NYI and I think we still may pass.

1. Alexis Lafreniere
2. Lucas Raymond
3. Quinton Byfield
4. Tim Stützle
5. Alexander Holtz
6. Jamie Drysdale
7. Anton Lundell
8. Marco Rossi
9. Cole Perfetti
10. Jake Sanderson
11. Guhle
12. Schneider
13. Askarov
14. Lapierre

Guhle and Schneider I have in my next tier . Those forwards , including Quinn all are more talented better players than Schneider and Guhle so to me they get ranked higher. I think the pluses in Schneider and Guhle's game make them level with the next group but not the tier I posted above. Lapierre I have quite a bit later. He had a fantastic Hlinka but other than that ??? and his concussion/spinal history is way too risky for me ..And I don't think he deserves that ranking based on his expanded body of work. So disagree with your list on those points. The rest is pretty much the same

 

[Daffy]

I'd be pumped if we got Quinn. He's easily a top 10 talent, no question about it. Wouldn't take him top 5, but after that I would have no complaints.

 

[OmniSens]

All of a sudden, every one wants to be drafted by Ottawa.

 

[Senscore]

All of a sudden, every one wants to be drafted by Ottawa.

The alternative is living in Detroit.

 

[JungleBeat]

The alternative is living in Detroit.

More players probably would want to play in Detroit than Ottawa.

 

[Sweatred]

Guhle and Schneider I have in my next tier . Those forwards , including Quinn all are more talented better players than Schneider and Guhle so to me they get ranked higher. I think the pluses in Schneider and Guhle's game make them level with the next group but not the tier I posted above. Lapierre I have quite a bit later. He had a fantastic Hlinka but other than that ??? and his concussion/spinal history is way too risky for me ..And I don't think he deserves that ranking based on his expanded body of work. So disagree with your list on those points. The rest is pretty much the same

Fair point. I’m far from a Quinn fan but I see Schneider, Guhle, Sanderson possibly going ahead of Quinn.

I think we see the predicted “mid teen dman” go early like last year when Seider went 6th.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Fair point. I’m far from a Quinn fan but I see Schneider, Guhle, Sanderson possibly going ahead of Quinn.

I think we see the predicted “mid teen dman” go early like last year when Seider went 6th.

Agree on Sanderson .. I think he'll go top 11

 

[DJB]

I like Quinn but I wouldn't take him in the top 8

 

[Xspyrit]

1- Draft twice in the top-6

2- Use a 2nd to move up if needed to draft Quinn with the Isles pick *

3- Profit


* could even afford to add a later pick

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

All of a sudden, every one wants to be drafted by Ottawa.

Why not?

Draft status means more money and more chances to play pro as long as possible.

 

[branch]

If most of the big scouting lists that have come out so far are anywhere close to how the teams feel about prospects, the only way the Senators will get him is if they use one of the top two picks. With a June draft, our picks will be either 1/3, 2/3, or 3/4. So, that might mean having to use a pick as high as the 3rd overall on him, which would be a bit of a reach.

Trading back from 3 or 4 is not possible. If he is ranked by a lot of teams in the 5-10 type range, and the Senators like him at 3, they won't risk trading back. The Canadiens were in a similar situation with Kotkaniemi. There was a lot of smoke about them moving back to take him, but they played it safe and stayed at 3 because there is no way to guarantee they wouldn't play themselves by moving back and having another team take him.

Quinn would have to fall pretty hard to be available within distance of the Islanders pick. While the Senators have the ammo to trade up, teams rarely move back all that far.

I’d take Quinn but not with any of the 2 early picks. He gives me strong Monahan vibes. Anyone that wouldn’t take him pre-top 15 is horribly biased. I’d even trade the NYI 1st and Logan Brown to take him if he was still on the board just outside of the top 10.

 

[guyzeur]

I’d take Quinn but not with any of the 2 early picks. He gives me strong Monahan vibes. Anyone that wouldn’t take him pre-top 15 is horribly biased. I’d even trade the NYI 1st and Logan Brown to take him if he was still on the board just outside of the top 10.

Of course you don't pick him as a top 4

And after seeing a video of all his points in the prospect tread, he seems to create most of his points on is own. I don't get Monahan vibes but I do get those of Batherson - with a better scoring touch. I just hope his growth spur is not completed If we get him.

 

[bert]

I have Quinn in the 12-17 tier at this time. The order within the tier may vary .. but I think all these guys belong in the same tier

12	Dawson Mercer
13	Jack Quinn
14	Rodion Amirov
15	Noel Gunler
16	Seth Jarvis
17	Dylan Holloway

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The obvious concerns with Quinn are his age. He is almost a draft year older than prospects ranked above him. Everyone in this tier is a late birthday (Sept/Oct 2001) except Jarvis (Feb 2002). So if age is a factor its a common factor in this tier.
Quinn's goal to assist ratio could be more balanced. 52 g , 37 a. Quinn had 10 primary assists at even strength.
Quinn played on one of if not the strongest team in the CHL and he played on a 2nd line. Teams would have necessarily focused on Rossi as much as they could

I will say I really like Quinn. He seems like a really nice kid and a good valley boy to boot. He showed very nice abilities to generate offense for himself and he was responsible defensively. Even strength goals for and against when he's on the ice 77 34. For comparison Rossi was 103 and 35.

Gotta go deeper than that, not every person develops physically at the same time he is clearly a late bloomer. There is no chance id take any of those players over him. He is closer to the Rossi, Perfetti, Holtz group than that one.

Rossi had way better linemates than Quinn not really close either. He had to be the goal scorer on his line, he was the play maker last year he is a very versitile offensive player. I'll stick by it he will be a better NHL player than Rossi.

 

[Sensung]

I wouldn't mind using some of the 2nd/3rd round picks to move up from the Islander spot if Quinn is still available at 14.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Gotta go deeper than that, not every person develops physically at the same time he is clearly a late bloomer. There is no chance id take any of those players over him. He is closer to the Rossi, Perfetti, Holtz group than that one.

Rossi had way better linemates than Quinn not really close either. He had to be the goal scorer on his line, he was the play maker last year he is a very versitile offensive player. I'll stick by it he will be a better NHL player than Rossi.

Seems like he often get lumped in with the non-elite late-birthdays like Zary, Mercer, Holloway, Gunler, Amirov, etc... in that 10-20 range, even though he's arguably a tier above all those guys in skill and production.

You make a good point about linemates. Quinn definitely benefited from playing on the 67's stacked powerplay, but at even strength he played on the 2nd line beside Hoelscher and another secondary player. This isn't a player who scored 52 goals by being set up by Rossi all year.

 

[Matsens15]

Quinn is a pure sniper. And we don’t have any in our pipeline...

 

[JungleBeat]

Seems like he often get lumped in with the non-elite late-birthdays like Zary, Mercer, Holloway, Gunler, Amirov, etc... in that 10-20 range, even though he's arguably a tier above all those guys in skill and production.

Not really. Quinn is playing on the best team out of the CHLers and Gunler is playing in a top 3 league worldwide.

Quinn (OHL): 1.43 pts/game
Zary (WHL): 1.50 pts/game
Mercer (QMJHL): 1.42 pts/game

Looks pretty similar to me.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Not really. Quinn is playing on the best team out of the CHLers and Gunler is playing in a top 3 league worldwide.

Quinn (OHL): 1.43 pts/game
Zary (WHL): 1.50 pts/game
Mercer (QMJHL): 1.42 pts/game

Looks pretty similar to me.

You're right that the overall numbers are similar, but I put a big weighting on development throughout the year and Quinn's production in 2020 was superior:

Quinn: 31G, 22A, 53P in 30GP (1.76 PPG)
Zary: 16G, 21A, 37P in 24GP (1.54 PPG)
Mercer: 6G, 12A, 18P in 16GP (1.13 PPG)

Quinn was unstoppable in the 2nd half of the season. Took a major step forward from the start of the year and should be a big riser on draft boards as a result.

 

[bert]

Not really. Quinn is playing on the best team out of the CHLers and Gunler is playing in a top 3 league worldwide.

Quinn (OHL): 1.43 pts/game
Zary (WHL): 1.50 pts/game
Mercer (QMJHL): 1.42 pts/game

Looks pretty similar to me.

Ill take the elite goal scorer.

 

[Matsens15]

Not really. Quinn is playing on the best team out of the CHLers and Gunler is playing in a top 3 league worldwide.

Quinn (OHL): 1.43 pts/game
Zary (WHL): 1.50 pts/game
Mercer (QMJHL): 1.42 pts/game

Looks pretty similar to me.

you can’t just compare ppg...

 

[bert]

you can’t just compare ppg...

Not to mention Quinn is also on a steeper development curve and the better two way player.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Not really. Quinn is playing on the best team out of the CHLers and Gunler is playing in a top 3 league worldwide.

Quinn (OHL): 1.43 pts/game
Zary (WHL): 1.50 pts/game
Mercer (QMJHL): 1.42 pts/game

Looks pretty similar to me.

was going to post it. Anyway its cool to like a prospect more than another. I don't think anyone should be out of sorts seeing him in the top 15 he has to be surrounded by other prospects at his spot there. If he was in another tier above where I put him he'd be in the top 10 and I think there are either better or more accomplished players ranked there.

Quinn is a very good prospect. I like the way he plays . He just isn't in my top 11

TP/G
LEAGUE	NAME	TEAM	GP	EV P1/GP	P1/GP	EV G	EV A1	EV P1	SH%	SHOTS/GP	TG	TP1	TP	TP/GP
WHL	Seth Jarvis	POR	58	0.9483	1.2759	32	23	55	19.18	3.78	42	74	98	1.69
WHL	Connor Zary	KAM	57	0.6316	1.1404	20	16	36	14.79	4.51	38	65	86	1.509
QMJHL	Mavrik Bourque	SHA	49	0.7959	1.1837	25	14	39	14.36	4.12	29	58	71	1.449
OHL	Jack Quinn	OTT	62	0.7097	1.1935	34	10	44	21.67	3.87	52	74	89	1.436
QMJHL	Dawson Mercer	DRU/CHI	42	0.6905	1.0952	16	13	29	16.9	3.38	24	46	60	1.429
USHL	Sam Colangelo	CHI	44	0.9545	1.1136	24	18	42	22.22	2.86	28	49	58	1.318
MHL	Rodion Amirov	TUFA	17	0.7647	1.1765	5	8	13	11.76	5	10	20	22	1.294

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