Confirmed with Link: Gawanke to SJS

[CorgisPer60]

For a draft and develop team, we're not developing a lot of guys lately

Understandably frustrating, but a core tenant of a draft and develop team is to develop players that are better than the people that are already on the NHL roster. That is equal parts on the player, the scouts, the coaches, and the GM. The only players that have developed to a degree better than the players that are already on the team are on the fringes, or are hamstrung by cap hits.

God that back end is a f***ing mess for contracts, and they need to address that this off season. They need to get rid of at least one vet and two waiver eligible players. You can't keep all of Stanley, Heinola, and Chisholm.

 

[surixon]

He looks like he is a very good skater that moves the puck really well. He might have some potential as an NHL dmen. He's still pretty young.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Ah yes, a LHD. Just as we needed.

This is a great return on Gawanke. A bigger, defense first, RHS would have been better, obviously. But this guy looks like a better all around prospect than Gawanke.

 

[surixon]

Understandably frustrating, but a core tenant of a draft and develop team is to develop players that are better than the people that are already on the NHL roster. That is equal parts on the player, the scouts, the coaches, and the GM. The only players that have developed to a degree better than the players that are already on the team are on the fringes, or are hamstrung by cap hits.

God that back end is a f***ing mess for contracts, and they need to address that this off season. They need to get rid of at least one vet and two waiver eligible players. You can't keep all of Stanley, Heinola, and Chisholm.

I mean we got a younger prospect with better pedigree for him. I don't mind that we added a prospect with a bit more runway for development.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Dudes AHL stats are impressive


This move lhd ahl Russian suggests Ville and Chis could be on the big club and they are going to definitely be moving out some d

It might under some circumstances. Under these, I think it just means getting something for Gawanke while the getting is good. I doubt Chevy had a variety of other offers to choose from.

That said, this looks like an upgrade. A younger, 2 way Dman in exchange for an older one who was more 1 dimensional.

I assume SJS wanted a RHD with some offense and that they plan on giving him a shot.

 

[Channelcat]

Gawanke was never going to get into the Jets lineup and frankly isn't NHL material.

Idk man, I think he can play a 5/6 position right now.

 

[Whileee]

Chisholm and Heinola will most likely be in the NHL next season, so the Moose will benefit from Kniazev's skill and mobility next season, while they are developing a few offensive forwards (Lambert, Lucius, Chibrikov).

 

[Atoyot]

Huh, a poster was pretty adamant arguing against me guaranteeing that no team would take a flyer on him.

Oh nevermind Gawanke just signed a 4 year deal with Adler Mannheim in May so we are just moving his rights for a player we can use with the Moose.



Yeah and Gawanke just signed a 4 year deal in the DEL in May so unlikely he's planning on returning to NA anytime soon.

NHL and DEL have a transfer agreement, unlike the NHL and KHL. Pretty easy to get him out of it if Gawanke and the Sharks both want him here.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Idk man, I think he can play a 5/6 position right now.

I'm guessing that SJS agree with you. They gave us a decent prospect for him.

 

[KingBogo]

Come what may, this trade is a welcome one for both parties. The bridge was thoroughly burned to a crisp, so it's better for Gawanke to get a fresh start and for us to get a younger prospect for him.

Now, it's up to the organisation to not repeat the same mistake again with other prospects.

So what was the mistake? Him not developing higher than 12 on the depth chart? He isn’t even a top AHL defensemen never mind an actual NHLer.

 

[Sweech]

They bought a year of waiver eligibility here. A former second round pick with solid AHL numbers. No idea about him but makes sense in terms of control.

There would have to be a lot of hoops jumped through for him to get the opportunity though. Stanley, Chisholm, and Heinola are arguably all ahead and they're all vying for gametime that's probably not available yet (barring a trade obviously).

 

[surixon]

There would have to be a lot of hoops jumped through for him to get the opportunity though. Stanley, Chisholm, and Heinola are arguably all ahead and they're all vying for gametime that's probably not available yet (barring a trade obviously).

True but he's more depth and we will just have to see how things play out.

 

[JetsFan815]

have to figure some LHD are on their way out. (from Dillon, Stanley, and Heinola).

I must say, I'm having a hard time getting used to my new avatar. When I scroll and see it, my first thought is "who is this f***ing joker!"

It feels like he is staring into my soul everytime I see that avatar.

 

[Maukkis]

So what was the mistake? Him not developing higher than 12 on the depth chart? He isn’t even a top AHL defensemen never mind an actual NHLer.

Refusing to give prospects chances with the Jets and opting for acquisitions of veterans instead. Gawanke is obviously the only one to have vocally expressed his thoughts about it, but he surely isn't the only one in the same boat. Kovacevic was lost to waivers, Chisholm might go the same route, Heinola is up next in a year's time. Do we go 4 for 4, or can we actually get some of them in the show?

And before someone goes "bu-but they weren't good enough, that's why they didn't get chances!", would you rather be wrong and see us promote our own prospects, or be right and not see our prospects get to the NHL? You can endlessly give veterans the roles because they are proven and prospects aren't and be right (at least technically), but that does no good in the long run. We've done just that for the last 3 years.

 

[Atoyot]

have to figure some LHD are on their way out. (from Dillon, Stanley, and Heinola).

I must say, I'm having a hard time getting used to my new avatar. When I scroll and see it, my first thought is "who is this f***ing joker!"

Guy definitely likes his craft beer.

 

[JetsFan815]

@nobody imp0rtant there's your answer to why the Jets qualified him.

 

[CorgisPer60]

There's our answer.

 

[Atoyot]

There's our answer.

 

[puck stoppa]

Anyone know anything about incoming player and where he slots on depth chart?

 

[Atoyot]

Anyone know anything about incoming player and where he slots on depth chart?

22, had him confused with Knyzhov at first, small-ish (6'0") puck moving defenseman. San Jose obviously thinks there isn't a future there. All in all it's a nice return for Gawanke who wasn't coming back under any circumstances, as evidenced by his 4 year DEL deal. Scout reports praise his skating but I haven't watched him myself. Happy to have him, he's more than I expected to get back, happy Gawanke will get a shot somewhere.

 

[Thechozen1]

Almost certainly. No reason for SJS to make the deal otherwise.

Building a little Russian community on the Moose.

I don’t mind that strategy at all. Make the transition as smooth as possible for Chibrikov, Kuzmin and Zhilkin.

 

[WolfgangPuck]

Interesting to see if Gawanke can make the Sharks line up at training camp and end the debate if he really is NHL material or Jet held him back

 

[None]

Huh, a poster was pretty adamant arguing against me guaranteeing that no team would take a flyer on him.

I'll preface this by saying it's entirely hyperbolic but he could become a 30-40 point defender in the NHL and you'd still have people saying it was the right move to never give him a shot.

 

[WolfgangPuck]

Yea half the posters are arrogance and that's how the Hfboard forum works
Never admit you are wrong about the projection of a player if you are proven wrong later

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I'll preface this by saying it's entirely hyperbolic but he could become a 30-40 point defender in the NHL and you'd still have people saying it was the right move to never give him a shot.

You can find someone to support pretty much every idea. There are actual flat-earthers.