Gardiner-Pesce vs. Krug-Carlo as a Middle Pairing Next Season

[Trap Jesus]

Don't consider contracts for this, just consider effectiveness for next season.

Two similar pairings for offensive/defensive dynamics that will most likely be getting middle pairing minutes next season. You can also consider Pesce/Carlo's PK play and Krug/Gardiner's PP play.

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[Merrrlin]

Krug Carlo

 

[tony d]

Gardiner and Pesce.

 

[Michael HOMERUNing]

I would also add Muzzin-Barrie. Another second pairing with a high end offensive guy and a very good defender

 

[Morgs]

 

[Fear]

Krug and Gardiner are close, but pesce blows Carlo out of the water

 

[ccman68]

Would rather have Gardiner Pesce as my top pairing than whatever the Bruins have.

 

[Goathead]

I would also add Muzzin-Barrie. Another second pairing with a high end offensive guy and a very good defender

Not every thread has to be about the leafs.

 

[snipes]

I would also add Muzzin-Barrie. Another second pairing with a high end offensive guy and a very good defender

Not a thread about the Leafs whatsoever

 

[Hisch13r]

Gardiner-Pesce pretty easily. I'd say Gardiner is basically equal to Krug but I think Gardiner is a bit better and Pesce is way better than Carlo

 

[The Moose is Loose]

As a Canes fan I'd say its even. I think the Gardiner contract was good, but Krug is a much better player than Gardiner.

I'd take Pesce over Carlo, but less gap than Krug over Gardiner.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

I would also add Muzzin-Barrie. Another second pairing with a high end offensive guy and a very good defender

Wouldn't that be Toronto's top pair.

Also, stop making everything about yourself. Not a great quality.

 

[Hisch13r]

As a Canes fan I'd say its even. I think the Gardiner contract was good, but Krug is a much better player than Gardiner.

I'd take Pesce over Carlo, but less gap than Krug over Gardiner.

Really? I feel Krug and Gardiner are pretty similar while Pesce and Carlo are similar defensively but Pesce brings much more offensively

 

[The Moose is Loose]

Really? I feel Krug and Gardiner are pretty similar while Pesce and Carlo are similar defensively but Pesce brings much more offensively

Eh, Carlo is bigger and younger than Pesce which adds value. Pesce is good for about for about 10 more points, which is why I think he is the better player, but I don't think the value gap is massive. But I'd very easily take Krug over Gardiner (even though I am excited by the Gardiner signing at that price)

 

[Trap Jesus]

Krug and Gardiner are close, but pesce blows Carlo out of the water

I think both Canes defenders lean more towards being more well rounded but the Bruins pair are both excellent at one specific side of the puck, whether it's offense or defense. Krug's offensive advantage is more than an of the others' offensive or defensive advantage IMO (ie. Krug vs. Gardiner for offense or Pesce vs. Carlo for defense).

Pesce is the best overall D-man though.

 

[Breakers]

No toronto shouldn't have been included in this.
Because Muzzin wasnt on Carlo's and Pesce's level defensively at all last season.

 

[Snippit]

I would also add Muzzin-Barrie. Another second pairing with a high end offensive guy and a very good defender

Which one is the very good defender?

 

[Dr Salt]

Gardiner and Pesce ez

 

[Dabeast]

Canes duo and it's not particularly close

 

[bearcountry17]

Krug had as much points in 64 games as Gardiner and Pesce combined last season in 135. His 18 points in 24 playoff games is exactly as much as Gardiner and Pesce have in their careers in a combined 41 games.

Brandon Carlo has already established himself as one of the top shutdown and penalty killing dmen in the league by the age of 22. He’s many years away from his prime and is still a good #3 right now right now.

Brett Pesce is a very good dman but Gardiner is the new Dennis Wideman. There’s a reason that, in a league where you can never have enough defensive depth, a defensemen , one season removed from a 52 point year ,would get the contract he just got. He’s a bonehead, soft, and plays brutal in big situations.

This is the Bruins duo, Pesce keeps it from being AINEC.

 

[SHANNYPLAN]

Canes D-Core Looking Pretty Crazy

Slavin - - Hamilton
Gardiner - - - Pesce
TVR/Fleury - Faulk

Muzzin - Barrie is a better second pairing than either of these options though

 

[Clint Eastwood]

Canes D-Core Looking Pretty Crazy

Slavin - - Hamilton
Gardiner - - - Pesce
TVR/Fleury - Faulk

Muzzin - Barrie is a better second pairing than either of these options though

No one gives a shit.

 

[roflstomper]

Krug sucks but Gardiner is waaaay worse. Pesce is moderately better than Carlo. So yeah.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

Krug had as much points in 64 games as Gardiner and Pesce combined last season in 135. His 18 points in 24 playoff games is exactly as much as Gardiner and Pesce have in their careers in a combined 41 games.

Brandon Carlo has already established himself as one of the top shutdown and penalty killing dmen in the league by the age of 22. He’s many years away from his prime and is still a good #3 right now right now.

Brett Pesce is a very good dman but Gardiner is the new Dennis Wideman. There’s a reason that, in a league where you can never have enough defensive depth, a defensemen , one season removed from a 52 point year ,would get the contract he just got. He’s a bonehead, soft, and plays brutal in big situations.

This is the Bruins duo, Pesce keeps it from being AINEC.

Yeah, it’s because he was coming off back injuries, misplayed his hand, and wanted term. Vastly inferior players got far more money.

 

[KingTux]

Carlo and Krug not close from me