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Someone has to do the paperwork. Who better than a lawyer like Howson.
Why JF doesn't understand the difference between the president and the general manager? Wow.
Someone has to do the paperwork. Who better than a lawyer like Howson.
The first game was a full 60, but the remaining ones weren't. Our goaltending is in the bottom half of the middle third of the league, so while that is technically "Below Average" it is better than it has been in years. You can expect the defense to be better, but without an offense to cary some of the load, and have the puck for some of the time, the team will never be successful. Even a defense of 6 Nik Lidstrom clones wouldn't be able to win games on their own if they had to spend the entire game in their own zone.
We finally have a minor league team that is respectable. We've developed some later round picks. This shortened season means the fans don't have to sit through as many losses before we get to the draft, but it is long enough to figure out who should be here and who shouldn't. It'll also let us know what works, and what doesn't with Todd Richards system, once the players get a chance to actually learn it.
Maybe I had moderate expectations drilled into me from a young age as I grew up a fan of all Cleveland sports, but I was already waiting for next year before this one started. The future is bright, but it won't be here today, tomorrow, or even this week. I'm ok with that, I can still go to the arena and have a good time.
Pfah. merriam-webster.com suggests that the uncapitalized form is perfectly acceptable.
Change just to make change? I'm indifferent on Howson, frankly I don't care if he stays or goes, but Scott has one playoff run on his resume, countless bad signings/resigns, an average trade record, and a TBD draft record.
Since he's been here we've had 4 head coaches, countless assistant coaches, had to bring in a new president to try to bring credibility to the franchise. The coach that he resigned in the offseason has another coach over his shoulder as the "associate" head coach. Is there anything the Howson has really done right other than a few trades?
His first round track record is terrible when you consider only two guys 3 guys are left in the organization.
He stuck with a goalie for far to long when it was clear to the whole hockey world that our goalie position was far and away the worst in the NHL.
He came up with the bright idea to completely dismantle the leadership group the year after we made the playoffs. What a god awful decision that was. Hell
If you think people wanting to get rid of Scott is just to make a change for the sake of it, your absolutely insane. Mr. Howson has accomplished nothing that should warrant him the job security he has been afforded thus far.
Oh forgot to bring up the embarrassment that was the Carter trade. Yeah, trade two of our top future assets without actually doing your homework on a guy, that worked out soooooo well.
Let me take a guess--- because in a well run organization, the President and GM serve different functions?
Murray, Johansen, Jenner (2nd Rd steal), Atkinson (6rd steal) Reilly 6 late Rd steal) Our goaltending is actually improving(Dansk Forsberg Korpisalo Bobrovsky). Will it last? Time will tell. Howson brought in Bobrovsky to motivate Mason. I think that lit a fire under his ass and maybe, just maybe it's starting to show. Developing players takes time, and having the right players to surround them with is critical.
We also have a stock full of promising defensive players. They just need to get some offensive help.
I'm curious to see these "countless bad signings/resigns".
Trade record is above average.
Draft record is among the best in the league since 2007. Edmonton's is stronger because they've picked higher every year since 2007 (with the exception of 2008), Buffalo had a good 2008, and most of the best post-2007 players in the NHL were drafted higher than Columbus could have gotten.
Inherited one, and you're including an interim coach in Claude Noel. You're skewing numbers to fit your agenda.
A GM can't control the people above him.
That's not a good measure of draft record at all. But you know this already.
Since 1980, there have been five goalies with 50+ wins in their first two NHL seasons before age 25.
They are: Ron Hextall, Henrik Lundqvist, Tom Barrasso, Jim Carey, and Steve Mason.
If Howson had unloaded Steve Mason, and he'd rebounded and gone on to do what Lundqvist has done or what Hextall and Barrasso did, would you really be sitting here saying, "Good move, he had to avoid the next Jim Carey"? Come on.
Nope but he let the others walk or traded them away.He made Mike Peca retire?
There are plenty who do. That's impossible to deny.
How many times do I have to go through this? Seriously.
What Jeff Carter did, by being traded and then floating his lazy ass around until he could be moved, is unprecedented in the last 30 years. It's something that simply has never happened. Scott Stevens threatened retirement and lawsuits rather than play in New Jersey, and yet he was able to swallow his pride and win three Stanley Cups while ending up in the Hall of Fame. Bernie Nicholls didn't want to move because his wife was going through a difficult pregnancy (and then the situation repeated itself later), and yet he performed at his usual pace despite not wanting to be there.
But little Jeffy had to stomp his feet and throw a tantrum and actually follow up on it, which no one had done before. How the hell are you supposed to deduce that outcome by "doing homework"? It's just as possible that Carter would have been abducted by aliens and vaporized; would you blame Howson for not being able to figure that one out beforehand?
I'll agree with that, we need a lot of help, but we also need time. We had no training camp to speak of, no preseason games. We are just now getting to the point where our players should be by game 1.Here we go counting chickens before they are hatched again to defend Howson's current abysmal track record at drafting.
Let's see MB finally prove this nonsense about Howson's great drafting record since 2007 instead of hanging his hat on it with no evidence to back it up. Who were these great picks? They don't seem to be in our lineup.
Picking Ryan Murray took slightly more brain power than remembering to breathe again. It would be like giving the Penguins credit for drafting Crosby or Malkin.
It doesn't matter, because the fact of the matter is, Murray joined the team under his tenure
Jenner and Reilly, two players who have yet to play their first professional game are no more evidence that Howson's drafting has improved than Mayorov or Kubalik, guys that people were all excited about years ago were before they'd played significant time as pros.
Difference this time is that these players are recognized internationally. While Reilly may not have directly led his team to the Gold in the WJC, his play caught a lot of people's eyes and Jenner even more so.
It takes very little to improve the worst goaltending in the league to simply be below average.
I play goalie, goalie stats don't tell the whole story, without a capable offense, the goalie is under more pressure, a lot more pressure. Even before the game even starts knowing you're going to have to make 35-45 saves to win a game is a very very difficult thing to accomplish day in and day out.
Saying we need "some" offensive help has to go down as the understatement of this young season.
how is howson supposed to "do his homework" on Carter...he knew we needed scoring and made a deal to bring a 25+ goal scorer here...its tampering if he talks to the player before acquiring him, so what homework could he have done? that day the trades came down fast and took ppl by surprise, not like there was time for him to talk to Carts that day...
some good revisionist work after the fact there...
Passing on Alex Galchenyuk when one has an offensively challenged team for a non superstar defenseman is shaping up to be another major blunder for GMSH.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8476851
Ryan Murray has yet to even put a jackets jersey on except for when he was drafted. Would Alex have been a nice addition to our team? Of course. I was actually upset we drafted Murray. But the more I looked at it the happier I became. While we had pretty good depth at D before the draft Murray should really solidify our top 4 pairing. Johnson MurrayPassing on Alex Galchenyuk when one has an offensively challenged team for a non superstar defenseman is shaping up to be another major blunder for GMSH.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8476851
Passing on Alex Galchenyuk when one has an offensively challenged team for a non superstar defenseman is shaping up to be another major blunder for GMSH.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8476851
A little early to be saying things one way or the other about either player right now, isn't it?
Nope. Fire Howson!
BTW this is a GDT from two days ago, how did it become this crap?
BTW this is a GDT from two days ago, how did it become this crap?
Come on Howie. You've been around since 2007 and you don't know the answer to that?
Yeah, that trade came sooooo fast, I mean nobody here was talking about it months before it happened, right? When making a big trade that is sending away two huge assets you should probably do your due diligence. It wasn't exactly an unknown thing that Carter had some character and compete issues.
Revisionist work after the fact? I hope you realize how stupid you sound when you say that. How the hell else do you evaluate anybodies performance job performance, at literally any job conceivable? Oh that's right, you do it by looking back over there body of work.
Yeah, that trade came sooooo fast, I mean nobody here was talking about it months before it happened, right? When making a big trade that is sending away two huge assets you should probably do your due diligence. It wasn't exactly an unknown thing that Carter had some character and compete issues.
Revisionist work after the fact? I hope you realize how stupid you sound when you say that. How the hell else do you evaluate anybodies performance job performance, at literally any job conceivable? Oh that's right, you do it by looking back over there body of work.