GDT: Game 69 | Pittsburgh Penguins @ Toronto Maple Leafs | 7PM | LOL, 69!

[ColePens]

No. It’s not good by any stretch but it’s not... that.

Really speaks to how blind that regime became when 3 years later the 4th line is still not as bad despite injuries to 3 different wingers.

I'm sure as f*** not condoning what DB/Shero did, but I think JR/Pens are absolute trend setters for what fans have wanted for years. A 4th line that is skilled is not something the NHL was all about literally until the Pens won 2 Cups in a row. A VERY few amount of teams tried it. Pens lucked their way into it once with the Buzz Line (technically played 3L).

So putting all that on DB/Shero is silly when the other NHL teams were equally as dumb.

 

[Speaking Moistly]

I'm sure as **** not condoning what DB/Shero did, but I think JR/Pens are absolute trend setters for what fans have wanted for years. A 4th line that is skilled is not something the NHL was all about literally until the Pens won 2 Cups in a row. A VERY few amount of teams tried it. Pens lucked their way into it once with the Buzz Line (technically played 3L).

So putting all that on DB/Shero is silly when the other NHL teams were equally as dumb.

Gladams was bad even by those standards.

 

[JimmyTwoTimes]

Hopefully Jooris has some playmaking ability. At least Rowney is better on the wing and it’s pretty much playoff time for him.

I’m actually excited to see Jooris. Hopefully he’s good enough so Rowney is the first one dropped when ZAR, Rust or Simon come back.

Just think how good the lineup is going to be oncs those last 3 names you listed take over for Kuhn, Rowney, and Jooris.

ZAR or Simon on LW3 ( id try ZAR) and Simon or ZAR - Sheahan - Rust for the 4th line.

By the way, if they are going with Kuhn - Jooris - Rowney then play them at least 12+ minutes. Why wear out the rest of the team or risk more injury before the playoffs because of the 4th line.

 

[Shrimper]

I think we can be pretty confident of that 4th line not getting much ice-time

 

[Tom Hanks]

Just think how good the lineup is going to be oncs those last 3 names you listed take over for Kuhn, Rowney, and Jooris.

ZAR or Simon on LW3 ( id try ZAR) and Simon or ZAR - Sheahan - Rust for the 4th line.

By the way, if they are going with Kuhn - Jooris - Rowney then play them at least 12+ minutes. Why wear out the rest of the team or risk more injury before the playoffs because of the 4th line.

They don’t need 12+ minutes though. 10 would be max I’d say. Brassard needs more minutes to gel with the team. Below is a pretty good number.

Crosby 19
Malkin 18
Brassard 17
Jooris 10

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Is this 4th line actually worse than Gladams??

No.

 

[Turin]

I'm sure as **** not condoning what DB/Shero did, but I think JR/Pens are absolute trend setters for what fans have wanted for years. A 4th line that is skilled is not something the NHL was all about literally until the Pens won 2 Cups in a row. A VERY few amount of teams tried it. Pens lucked their way into it once with the Buzz Line (technically played 3L).

So putting all that on DB/Shero is silly when the other NHL teams were equally as dumb.

The Penguins had the worst 4th line in the NHL in 2014. It’s not even about being particularly skilled, it’s about being an NHL player better than your average AHL jobber. 2014’s roster was garbage. 2013 is more on Dan because he had options that year and still iced the worst 4th line.

 

[JimmyTwoTimes]

They don’t need 12+ minutes though. 10 would be max I’d say. Brassard needs more minutes to gel with the team. Below is a pretty good number.

Crosby 19
Malkin 18
Brassard 17
Jooris 10

Yeah Brassard definitely needs more ice time to gel. Im more responding to those saying the 4th line shouldnt play. Weve already seen 3 injuries lately, last thing we need is another right now. So id play that 4th line as much as i could, while still trying to win the game(thats the tricky part)

 

[EightyOne]

69
6699
66>99

Let's Go Pens!

 

[Speaking Moistly]

Yeah Brassard definitely needs more ice time to gel. Im more responding to those saying the 4th line shouldnt play. Weve already seen 3 injuries lately, last thing we need is another right now. So id play that 4th line as much as i could, while still trying to win the game(thats the tricky part)

Except if their awful play leads to a defenseman getting hurt blocking a shot because they’re hemmed into their own zone for the millionth time.

 

[Tom Hanks]

Yeah Brassard definitely needs more ice time to gel. Im more responding to those saying the 4th line shouldnt play. Weve already seen 3 injuries lately, last thing we need is another right now. So id play that 4th line as much as i could, while still trying to win the game(thats the tricky part)

Yeah it’s a balancing act. We still want to win but we don’t want to kill ourselves doing it. Sully and the players know this pretty well so not too worth about that.

They’ll never drop the minutes too much. You still want that match fitness so it can’t go too low for too long.

 

[JimmyTwoTimes]

The Penguins had the worst 4th line in the NHL in 2014. It’s not even about being particularly skilled, it’s about being an NHL player better than your average AHL jobber. 2014’s roster was garbage. 2013 is more on Dan because he had options that year and still iced the worst 4th line.

We are starting to see that change each year ...more skilled players are entering the league ( seeing more talent coming out of europe ) which is fading out the " grinder/dan byslma/mike sullivan/ type" players. 4th liners are expected to score now. And will continue to change each season

 

[JimmyTwoTimes]

Except if their awful play leads to a defenseman getting hurt blocking a shot because they’re hemmed into their own zone for the millionth time.

Thats the tricky part

 

[Speaking Moistly]

Thats the tricky part

Honestly, that’s not tricky. They’re so bad they could manage to get the D or Jarry hurt if it all goes wrong. Potentially one of the centres if they double shift with Rownhack or get caught in a line change. There’s balancing the crap playing vs winning a game and there’s risking players because they suck. With the Pens’ luck Rowney blocks a shot into malkin’s face.

I’d also prefer not rattling a goalie via the shot blocking kingz.

 

[Shaffer]

Will be entertaining tonight.

Or so I hope.

 

[Dey so soff*]

Maybe we'll play the 4th line 0 minutes?

They're purely for display, like department store mannequins.

I think a department store mannequin might be more useful on skates than Rowney...

 

[Dey so soff*]

I think we can be pretty confident of that 4th line not getting much ice-time

This is the first of a back to back though. If they run the top 9 into the ice then they will be screwed for tomorrow night...

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Jesus christ, which idiot thought it would be a good idea to roll out the Kuhn-Jooris-Rowney line as a 4th line?

 

[HandshakeLine]

Jesus christ, which idiot thought it would be a good idea to roll out the Kuhn-Jooris-Rowney line as a 4th line?

Did you want to see Kuhn - Rowney - Hunwick instead?

 

[Coach Travis]

I almost wonder if the plan from here on out is for our 4C to be Crosby/Malkin double-shifting.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

I actually think even late stage Adams was a better player than whatever Rowney is supposed to be. The big frustration with Adams is they'd play him a ton in all situations. Sometimes with the team's best players.

 

[HandshakeLine]

I actually think even late stage Adams was a better player than whatever Rowney is supposed to be. The big frustration with Adams is they'd play him a ton in all situations. Sometimes with the team's best players.

I'll be super shocked if Rowney's even in the NHL in two seasons, let alone plays long enough to be late stage Adams.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Truth. But to be fair, if Ray hadn't kept on, infuriatingly, re-upping his contract season after season... I doubt he would have even reached late stage Adams. At least in an NHL context.

 

[JimmyTwoTimes]

I almost wonder if the plan from here on out is for our 4C to be Crosby/Malkin double-shifting.

With 14 games left thats exactly what i dont want to see happen. Dont wear those guys out . Unless they want to go with Brassard -Sid/Geno - whoever else at times . Still want to see him get playing time with those two since it wont happen on the pp. Helping him get more comfortable with the team

 

[Tom Hanks]

I almost wonder if the plan from here on out is for our 4C to be Crosby/Malkin double-shifting.

No Jooris is up to see how he is in the line up. It would be Sheahan moving back down if anything and unfortunately probably Kuhnhackl up (unless Jooris can play LW).

Crosby/Malkin with Rowney and Kuhnhackl is not happening. They don’t score enough to warrant that.