GDT: Game #61- Avs host Kraken @7pm MT / 9pm ET/ 4am CET/ 8am ICT
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Avs9296
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I like how you dismiss the six games and arbitrarily throw out a 24 game number.
Where did you get that number from? We won in 20 games last year. You just guessing at a number now?
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TruePowerSlave
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Injuries are part of the playoffs for every team, they will happen no matter what.
There is no comparison between this Avs version and the cup winning team. They were much better and had nearly everyone firing on all cylinders. It's not even close, especially after the deadline nonsense.
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Jesus Christ…. So that means he’s above all criticism?
Chiarelli
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Lol everyone in HFavs pissy since the TDL
The Kingslayer
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TDL pretty much ruined the rest of the season + the playoffs for me.
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Pepe was great, but my oh my would he not fly in this generation.
On a related note, you have to hand it to Finns for always backing their boys.
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Kadri + Bura + Sturm + NAK + Kuemper > ERod + Malgin + Nieto + Eller +Georgiev, there's no doubt.
But I think we forget how bad the Avs looked going into the playoffs (lost 6 of 7). If we can ever figure out a way to fire on all cylinders this season (hasn't really happened yet, part of it is the glut of injuries of course, but could be a sign we're just not as good this year), then I don't think the team is THAT much weaker, at least in context of being able to make it out of the West.
The Shermanator
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We are getting old. I still show up pretty frequently to deliver some quality posts though.I feel like I haven't seen you in forever, but I've been around less.
What's up dude.
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We could debate on a million reasons why here, but there are signs the team is just that much weaker. 5v5 the Avs only have xGF% higher than Seattle and Winnipeg out of the playoff teams in the West (and that difference is less than a quarter percent). HDCF% Avs are the lowest in the West. The Avs chances are being pushed to the perimeter and out, while defensively, the slot chances are up dramatically. Shot differential... Avs are +1 per game this year, last year +3 (larger difference than it sounds like). Down from +9 the year previous. Avs were a top 5 underlying team just a couple years ago. Slipped to fringe top 10 last year (Avs' finishing rate was incredibly high though). This year the Avs are closer to 20 in most areas.
There might be the argument that hey, goaltending is improved... it isn't. Avs have gotten similar performances out of Kuemper and Grubi the past two seasons. George has been good, but overall the Avs play a very friendly goalie style. Avs have clearly identified this though and found a way to save cap.
There is a strong downward trend in the Avs' underlying. We can debate the why and reasons around it, but there a signs of cracks.
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Might be two of the biggest though. Those two are sort of our identity.
I've seen people pick apart the team enough, just think it's fairly simple.
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The results were decreasing with them already, we have zero idea if they’ll be healthy enough to perform at a high level this season, and they are at an age where a cliff could happen.
Along with that, we’ve seen more changes that just them. Again, we could debate a million reasons.
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Probably because the people who were optimistic have had any hope crushed and those that like being negative/opposing the other side basically got a guarantee to being right at some point. Compare it to last years deadline. You still had some people picking Tampa/losing there shit vs the Blues. Avs had one of the most dominant runs possible and HFAvs still had some breakdowns lol
Avs basically need to hope for a run where they they get 100% health which is completely unrealistic. Even than if the Avs get bounced in the WCF/lose in the finals ... you'll always know deep down that if they made moves things are likely different. Not getting a 2C and believing in JTC is annoying but the death blow was not even adding a scoring winger to help the offense.
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And missing Byram and Manson for a good chunk of the season.
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expatriatedtexan
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I still think not having our top 4 dmen all healthy together for any significant amount of time is one of the biggest cracks. When the Avs are playing "their" game, everything, I mean everything, starts from the backend. For the team to function well playing their game, they need to have chemistry and get in a groove and they've just never been able to do so. Somebody has always been injured causing somebody else to be overworked to exhaustion. And if I'm being honest, we don't have the depth to cover for our top 4 being injured without sacrifice (or cracks).
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Avs have never had the top 4 group fully healthy in the past and had much, much better numbers.
