Post-Game Talk: Game #60: Canucks lose 3-1 to the Leafs - No games until Feb. 26th

[BobbyJazzLegs]

His depth is the AHL. Honestly, given an opportunity and he has been abysmal. If he can't create, he's useless.

Hope you all realize this.

You might be right. I think there's still a bit of time.

 

[Archangel]

You should head back there....GM's don't get removed after a cup run, nor do they get ****canned after a presidents trophy winning season.

As for Raymond, let's see how he does in the playoffs.

Or whatever, stick around here and keep tooting your own horn. What's that saying about a blind squirrel?

couple of observations

1) We are now three season gone from the cup run and back to back first round knock outs
2)2013 prez trophy was won by the hawks and it is more about what you do in the playoffs then what you do in the regular season

We as a fan base need to deal with the here and the now. We spent too much time living in the past and that is why we kept guys like Nasland and Morrison three years too long. We have giant gaps that need to be addressed

 

[HighFlyingSuperhero*]

You might be right. I think there's still a bit of time.

12 points in 41 NHL games, not even close to a PPG player in the AHL.

One dimensional 'scoring' forward that doesn't produce offense. Not good.

 

[Outside99*]

couple of observations

1) We are now three season gone from the cup run and back to back first round knock outs
2)2013 prez trophy was won by the hawks and it is more about what you do in the playoffs then what you do in the regular season

We as a fan base need to deal with the here and the now. We spent too much time living in the past and that is why we kept guys like Nasland and Morrison three years too long. We have giant gaps that need to be addressed

Of course he knows how bad the situation is, he's just trying to put on a brave face. How could he possibly not know?

The Canucks are the worst team in the west for the past 6 weeks, they're out of the playoffs, old team not getting younger, no cap space, NTC's all over, and to top it all off, a coach signed for 5 years that is driving the team into the ground AND, if its even fathomable to get worse, wants his kind of player, oblivious to the fact most everyone has an NTC and players' value is at an all time low.

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

This team is ****ed.

If only we waited to extend the Sedins...could easily get something decent for them. I would have taken a couple of firsts and a prospect at this rate. Henrik looks alright but Daniel...man. An absolute shell of his former self. Just two years ago he put up 100+ points and won an Art Ross.

Burrows has got to go. The fairy tale is over.

Draisaitl in the draft would be awesome, exactly what we need. Such a dangerous player.

If we go on a run and finish 9th I'm disowning this team

 

[Boreal01]

Vancouver isn't buying, they're selling.

You can take more of the Canucks garbage though, so far Vans garbage looks like gold for Toronto.

Any chance we could get Hansen on the Leafs?

 

[Jimson Hogarth*]

Any chance we could get Hansen on the Leafs?

Yup, for the right price.

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

Any chance we could get Hansen on the Leafs?

Yes.

 

[Karl Hungus]

12 points in 41 NHL games, not even close to a PPG player in the AHL.

One dimensional 'scoring' forward that doesn't produce offense. Not good.

He's not physical but he's not lost defensively either. He's reading the play and helping the defense get the puck out of the zone. My main issue with Schroeder is that he's too conservative in his decision making for a guy with his ability to pass and shoot. Throwing him overboard right now for any return whatsoever seems like a waste. If he gets into a groove offensively I think his defense would be adequate to play 2nd line opponents.

 

[VanillaCoke]

If only we waited to extend the Sedins...could easily get something decent for them. I would have taken a couple of firsts and a prospect at this rate. Henrik looks alright but Daniel...man. An absolute shell of his former self. Just two years ago he put up 100+ points and won an Art Ross.

Burrows has got to go. The fairy tale is over.

In hindsight waiting a few more weeks to resign the sedins would've been a good idea, but I doubt their play will fall off the face of the earth from here on out. I bet next season they rebound atleast a bit.

Burrows has had two major injuries, safe to say after a summer to train and not wear the face shield he will also put up atleast 20 goals next season.

 

[vanarchy]

This core wasn't going to get it done whether we're out of the playoffs picture or in it.

I'm excited for the future and a possible restructuring of this team. The real fans reveal themselves through the hard times so it is what it is. The same guys taking the jerseys off and pretending thy weren't fans in the first place are the same guys that wouldn't watch a game but somehow blame it on Luongo lol. Good riddance.

 

[y2kcanucks]

This core wasn't going to get it done whether we're out of the playoffs picture or in it.

I'm excited for the future and a possible restructuring of this team. The real fans reveal themselves through the hard times so it is what it is. The same guys taking the jerseys off and pretending thy weren't fans in the first place are the same guys that wouldn't watch a game but somehow blame it on Luongo lol. Good riddance.

Honestly I'm not so optimistic about the future. Gillis has this core locked up long-term with NTC's and has stated he won't ask players to waive their NTC's. That tells me that we can expect more of the same going forward.

 

[Nucker101]

Honestly I'm not so optimistic about the future. Gillis has this core locked up long-term with NTC's and has stated he won't ask players to waive their NTC's. That tells me that we can expect more of the same going forward.

We'll become the Flames/Leafs of the past, I just hope that he isn't that ignorant about the direction this current group is headed..he's gotta be smarter than that. But if he insists on sticking to his word about NTC's then he has to go so a new GM can basically come in with an "all bets are off" approach.

 

[iFan]

Honestly I'm not so optimistic about the future. Gillis has this core locked up long-term with NTC's and has stated he won't ask players to waive their NTC's. That tells me that we can expect more of the same going forward.

Gillis doesn't give much away during interviews so I'm not so sure he won't ask someone to waive, Gillis is a bit of a clown of a GM when it comes to trading players... Hodgson, Schneider/Luongo both of those trades had so much drama around them, so I'm looking forward to seeing what days of our lives soap opera drama this team will be airing in the offseason.

 

[HighFlyingSuperhero*]

Honestly I'm not so optimistic about the future. Gillis has this core locked up long-term with NTC's and has stated he won't ask players to waive their NTC's. That tells me that we can expect more of the same going forward.

If that's the case than Gillis doesn't have a job come June.

 

[Bertie]

Raymond is just a horrendous playoff performer. Do not want.

Check his record again, even with all his injuries he has better figures than most of the forwards in that team apart from the Sedins, Kes and Burr.

Leafs on the other hand, given a D trade look set to go, Raymond included.

 

[Betamax*]

Luuuuuuuuu

Elite goaltender, mega elite

About three years ago, I would have agreed not 100% but a limited time special bonus 10% to make it 110% ... But I checked the calender and it read 2014 not 2011 .....

 

[Bertie]

If that's the case than Gillis doesn't have a job come June.

Gillis has said he will not discuss NTCs with players...........so it looks like he is hoping his "big move" Torts is going to drive them into his office and beg for a trade.

 

[HighFlyingSuperhero*]

Gillis has said he will not discuss NTCs with players...........so it looks like he is hoping his "big move" Torts is going to drive them into his office and beg for a trade.

This is what likely will happen. Gillis will come to the players and say he's re-tooling and would they like to be apart of the process.

My guess is most will say 'no thanks'

 

[Chairman Maouth]

All I can say is that for me, these are the darkest days since the Messier/Keenan era.

 

[Rotting Corpse*]

All I can say is that for me, these are the darkest days since the Messier/Keenan era.

I mentioned this yesterday...the last time we lost 7 games in a row in regulation, this was the game that "snapped" it.

 

[Betamax*]

All I can say is that for me, these are the darkest days since the Messier/Keenan era.

Well, on a brighter note, Messier/Keenan era put the Canucks in a position to draft the Sedins.

So maybe it will be deja vu and the end of the movie will be an Ekblad, Reinhart, Bennett or even McDavid if it's a Gone Like the Wind type of movie.

 

[luongo321]

This is what likely will happen. Gillis will come to the players and say he's re-tooling and would they like to be apart of the process.

My guess is most will say 'no thanks'

Yeah, I mean lots of these players signed those ntc's because they thought this was an awesome team that would compete for at least a few more years, but now that the team is looking very poor, I'm sure a few players won't hesitate to leave to a decent team.

 

[HighFlyingSuperhero*]

Yeah, I mean lots of these players signed those ntc's because they thought this was an awesome team that would compete for at least a few more years, but now that the team is looking very poor, I'm sure a few players won't hesitate to leave to a decent team.

Exactly. People are reading too much into this NTC thing.

 

[Rotting Corpse*]

Yes. The NTC is just to give the player some leverage in terms of controlling where he can go. It's not going to be a roadblock.