GDT: Game #57 | Penguins vs. Red Wings

[Ogrezilla]

why dont we play Jarry more? Hes earned the starter job imo

Murray has earned it too. Both are playing great.

 

[Ugene Magic]

The odd thing about players needing "rest" is that these are finely tuned athletes, mostly in their 20's, some in their early 30's. It is unclear to me how letting them sit in the press box for one game every now and then constitutes "rest".

How many of them are playing through bumps and bruises, and timely made rests where there is a couple day lawl between games can do a lot of good for those players. Guys like Horny who always plays a hardnose game makes sense. There will be a time where they are playing every other day + both days on the weekend (first 2 weeks of March) until they get a 2 day lawl in action.

They have the TDL off for a couple days and the grind starts for like 2-1/2 weeks before the next 2 day reprieve.

Timing will be essential.

 

[Andy99]

I wouldn't question Sully but what's the reasoning behind rotating starts like this you think?

At some point he'll need to try to ride one of them right? You can't rotation every game in playoffs.

fully expecting Murray to get the PO start given past history and experience, with Jarry coming in if he’s not playing well or being outplayed by the opposing goalie or if we’re losing games..

 

[Andy99]

How many of them are playing through bumps and bruises, and timely made rests where there is a couple day lawl between games can do a lot of good for those players. Guys like Horny who always plays a hardnose game makes sense. There will be a time where they are playing every other day + both days on the weekend (first 2 weeks of March) until they get a 2 day lawl in action.

They have the TDL off for a couple days and the grind starts for like 2-1/2 weeks before the next 2 day reprieve.

Timing will be essential.

Rust has been playing nicked...if there’s a chance to give him a game when Bjug returns, I’d do it...

 

[Tom Hanks]

why dont we play Jarry more? Hes earned the starter job imo

Jarry still has played more games in 2020. It’s now the most he’s played in the NHL. Both playing well so share the wealth.

The goalie schedule is made in advanced and only adjusted if form/injury dictates.

 

[Ogrezilla]

fully expecting Murray to get the PO start given past history and experience, with Jarry coming in if he’s not playing well or being outplayed by the opposing goalie or if we’re losing games..

if neither has separated himself from the other by then, it will be a really interesting situation. If we climb above the Caps to win the division while rotating goalies, is there a chance we just keep doing it in the playoffs? It seems unheard of, but if it keeps working why not?

 

[Ogrezilla]

Rust has been playing nicked...if there’s a chance to give him a game when Bjug returns, I’d do it...

if its something that will get better by sitting for a game, for sure.

 

[Ugene Magic]

Okay. But it's really just not something NHL teams do mid-season. Especially against tough opponents.

HC's do do it, it's not something that stands out because of some of the injuries and maintenance days get intertwined. Not easily noticed or overlooked.

Injury><Maintenance day

 

[Andy99]

if neither has separated himself from the other by then, it will be a really interesting situation. If we climb above the Caps to win the division while rotating goalies, is there a chance we just keep doing it in the playoffs? It seems unheard of, but if it keeps working why not?

I’m not opposed to it...I just don’t think it’ll happen...just think Sully will give MM the benefit of the doubt

 

[Ogrezilla]

HC's do do it, it's not something that stands out because of some of the injuries and maintenance days get intertwined. Not easily noticed or overlooked.

Injury><Maintenance day

if its something like Rust playing banged up, I could see it. I don't think it'll happen just to rest anybody who is otherwise healthy.

 

[Ogrezilla]

I’m not opposed to it...I just don’t think it’ll happen...just think Sully will give MM the benefit of the doubt

hopefully its still a "problem" he has to think about when the time comes.

 

[Ugene Magic]

if its something like Rust playing banged up, I could see it. I don't think it'll happen just to rest anybody who is otherwise healthy.

Exactly.

 

[Ogrezilla]

Exactly.

in my head I'm counting that as an injury I guess.

 

[cheesedanish87]

I think they look at records and #s against the particular team we’re playing...I should note Jarry played extremely well in our one win against Toronto earlier in the season and I would expect him to get at least one of the home and home series games...

I'm not sure about that.

Look at the Montreal game, Murray played well against the Habs this year, Jarry had one of his worst games against the Habs earlier in the year, Sully ended up going with Jarry last start.

I think the main priority is playing both goalies about the same number of games.

This is the Pens 7th game since the break, each had 3 starts going into today's game.

 

[Invalid cuz QoC]

The odd thing about players needing "rest" is that these are finely tuned athletes, mostly in their 20's, some in their early 30's. It is unclear to me how letting them sit in the press box for one game every now and then constitutes "rest".

Sports in general, the more high level you are or elite the more recovery is a huge deal. Hell even intermediate level and on recovery is important to monitor. The more you can recover from all the fatigue you’ve accumulated the higher your peak performance will be. That’s why a lot of high level athletes are on PEDs, they need faster recovery, especially when they are paid to use their bodies.

 

[BrookswasHere44]

fully expecting Murray to get the PO start given past history and experience, with Jarry coming in if he’s not playing well or being outplayed by the opposing goalie or if we’re losing games..

Definitely don't disagree, I guess my question was when does he ride Murray more going into PO? Like the last week or 2?

 

[deakka]

Why not give Jarry the POs ? He has heyer numbers and i don't buy the "playoff experience" angle. How much experience did Murray have when he won his 1st cup?

Also. The decision of who to keep should be easy if nothing else on the difference in salary they will command. So why not go with Jarry since it should be his team moving forward after the season.

 

[Gurglesons]

Why not give Jarry the POs ? He has heyer numbers and i don't buy the "playoff experience" angle. How much experience did Murray have when he won his 1st cup?

Also. The decision of who to keep should be easy if nothing else on the difference in salary they will command. So why not go with Jarry since it should be his team moving forward after the season.

Because it is easier to turn to Jarry as a back up then Murray.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

Is this thread all jacked up for anyone else or is it just me?

 

[IcedCapp]

Why not give Jarry the POs ? He has heyer numbers and i don't buy the "playoff experience" angle. How much experience did Murray have when he won his 1st cup?

Also. The decision of who to keep should be easy if nothing else on the difference in salary they will command. So why not go with Jarry since it should be his team moving forward after the season.

The playoffs don’t start for 2 months...

 

[fragmag]

Is this thread all jacked up for anyone else or is it just me?

It's working fine for me

 

[varano]

I'm lost at this goalie utilization. It's as if Jarry has to post shutout after shutout to get continuous starts. I think starting Murray against Detroit throws the theory that Jarry was going to get the softer teams out the window

 

[Ragamuffin Gunner]

why dont we play Jarry more? Hes earned the starter job imo

Most teams play their back-up vs DET.

 

[Gurglesons]

I'm lost at this goalie utilization. It's as if Jarry has to post shutout after shutout to get continuous starts. I think starting Murray against Detroit throws the theory that Jarry was going to get the softer teams out the window

Murray has been better than Jarry lately. They are giving them even starts.

 

[deakka]

Murray has been better than Jarry lately. They are giving them even starts.

What's lately? Jarry just saved 34/35 last game