Post-Game Talk: GAME 4 DALLAS - Dallas 38-3

[Johnnyduke]

Any guards projected in the top 10 this year?

Speaking of guards, seems like Joe Thuney has worked out real well for the Chiefs. You know, the domino that started all of this. Oh and Shaq Mason too. I don't know how Mason is doing though.

 

[KrejciMVP]

People aren't talking BOB because they have convinced themselves that Matt Patricia was the only reason the offense sucked last year. The reality is it wasn't Patricia's fault. He shouldn't have been the OC but the offense sucks in general because of personnel and also horrible decision making by the QB. BOB isn't a cure all. He's running into the same issues Matt Patricia had.

Still though, it was months of offseason talk about Obrien fixing the offense. His offense is terrible.

 

[Johnnyduke]

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Funny, when they were winning, Bel is a genius, anything he said was him playing chess. Now that they suck, everyone gets pissed at his moves/statements.
What story are all the Pats media ball washers going to come up with now? injuries?

I can understand having to take a back seat when they are winning. But now? I think the media has been plenty critical of him. The questions are getting tougher even if they still get the same BS answers. I'm not sure who he has left for legit allies in the media.

 

[Troublesome 85]

Team isnt bad enough to get in drafting distance of a new QB

 

[Lobster57]

The only teams I think the Patriots are ahead of:

Chicago (somehow lost to them last year)
Denver
Carolina

That's it. That is the entire list. There are four games I look at as games that will determine if this is like a 6 win team max or if they truly bottom out:

Saints
Raiders
Broncos
Jets

You'd be foolish to call any of those locks. Right now the Pats are 1.5 pt home favorites against the Saints. A toss up. Things could get ugly in the stands at Gillette on Sunday.

Denver and the Raiders finish the season against each other, and it could be for last place. The Raiders f***ed up by beating Denver in week 1. Both teams have a reasonable chance of being 1-15 for that game

 

[Mione134]

Jack Jones and Jonathan Jones should be back next week.

But this still sucks

 

[CDJ]

Team isnt bad enough to get in drafting distance of a new QB

Idk about that!

 

[Troublesome 85]

Idk about that!

Just checked one of the top mock sites.

Pats are at 7 Williams Maye and Ewers are all gone before then. Unless Sanders is an option.

Id rather Harrison Jr

 

[GordonHowe]

Despite Bill Belichick's legendary track record, Patriots just keep getting worse

The all-time great coach has had three-plus years to get the Patriots back to their winning ways. But that's not happening right now.

theathletic.com

 

[Bruinswillwin77]

Definitely looking like 5-12 or 6-11

 

[Johnnyduke]

Team isnt bad enough to get in drafting distance of a new QB

Really? Without Judon and Gonzalez for a while? The schedule is brutal.

 

[CDJ]

Just checked one of the top mock sites.

Pats are at 7 Williams Maye and Ewers are all gone before then. Unless Sanders is an option.

Id rather Harrison Jr

We may catch some of those bad teams in front! Especially if Judon and Gonzalez are down

I’d take Sanders though

 

[Johnnyduke]

Just checked one of the top mock sites.

Pats are at 7 Williams Maye and Ewers are all gone before then. Unless Sanders is an option.

Id rather Harrison Jr

Sign me up for Harrison Jr and a new coach.

 

[Seidenbergy]

Denver and the Raiders finish the season against each other, and it could be for last place. The Raiders f***ed up by beating Denver in week 1. Both teams have a reasonable chance of being 1-15 for that game

I want whatever you're smoking.

 

[McGarnagle]

We'll have a top 5 pick and a franchise QB will be on the board when Bill trades the pick to Pittsburgh for the #23 overall pick and a 2nd rounder, and he'll walk out of the draft with a guard from Nevada and a cornerback from Rutgers.

 

[KesselBuiltMyHotrod]

You can always trade up in the draft.

 

[Bruinswillwin77]

We'll have a top 5 pick and a franchise QB will be on the board when Bill trades the pick to Pittsburgh for the #23 overall pick and a 2nd rounder, and he'll walk out of the draft with a guard from Nevada and a cornerback from Rutgers.

The sad (and somewhat hilarious) part is it's literally not even a joke.

 

[Mione134]

We'll have a top 5 pick and a franchise QB will be on the board when Bill trades the pick to Pittsburgh for the #23 overall pick and a 2nd rounder, and he'll walk out of the draft with a guard from Nevada and a cornerback from Rutgers.

Which is why I don't understand fans wanting us to tank. Bill ain't gonna draft what he should draft.

Gonzalez this year was a good surprise. Needed that. But y'all know I wanted Zay Flowers. I told you he was good and gonna be good. He also knows how to keep his feet inbounds and drag his tows, but I digress...

 

[Bruinswillwin77]

Ted Johnson was saying on sports Sunday that Judon is likely done for the year, speaking from his experience with torn biceps.

 

[yazmybaby]

Still though, it was months of offseason talk about Obrien fixing the offense. His offense is terrible.

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Jack Jones and Jonathan Jones should be back next week.

But this still sucks

It is time to tank this year and hope we get a top 5 pick.
I see us going 4-13 now with those two key injuries to CG and MJ.

 

[DNE3]

Sign me up for Harrison Jr and a new coach.

I signed up for two tackles, two receivers, quarterback, and a tight end in the mold of LaPorta. But that's over three-year time frame and both Bill and Robert could go down for the count.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Before starting over again with a QB perhaps draft a franchise #1 WR (or the next TE Kelce/Gronk) and see if Jones has a chance to reach potential.

 

[KrejciMVP]

Before starting over again with a QB perhaps draft a franchise #1 WR (or the next TE Kelce/Gronk) and see if Jones has a chance to reach potential.

how much money have they spent on TE's with Mac Jones as QB

 

[Lobster57]

I want whatever you're smoking.

Who does either team have left on their schedule that they're going to beat? The Raiders have the Bears i guess. Other than that it's clear losses or close match ups

 

[Johnnyduke]

Before starting over again with a QB perhaps draft a franchise #1 WR (or the next TE Kelce/Gronk) and see if Jones has a chance to reach potential.

It really is the only way to get a definitive answer on your QB. At least a middling QB like Mac. I just don't think Bill has any clue or appetite for doing it.

Weren't Tyreek Hill and Diggs traded to Miami/Buffalo? Add that roster building option as well. Instead we draft Cole Strange and Tyquan Thornton. Quite possibly Bill's worst ever round 1/2 combo. Sign JuJu, Devante Parker. Calvin Anderson/Reilly Reiff. Just awful.