GDT: Game #37: Islanders vs Coyotes - 7:00pm (AZ) - Scripps

[Llewzaher]

Having Hayton back could make a big difference

Schmaltz Hayton Keller. Schmaltz Kerfoot Keller
Maccelli Bugstad Crouse. Maccelli Bugstad Crous
Kerfoot Cooley Zucker. Cooley Hayton Zucker
OBrien McBain Carcone

 

[Jakey53]

Cooley has looked pretty good in 2024 so far at least. Seen some positive signs anyway. But yeah, the team has been absolute junk in the new year.

Let's give the opposition some credit here. The last two games against two very good teams with very good goalies has shown us that we have a ways to go. It's only going to get tougher from here on in. These games are all a learning experience. Baby steps.

 

[LittlePipes]

I think I’d mentally checked out by whenever this occurred. What happened?

early. I think his angst was directed at Durzi.
Todd W and Lindsey referenced it in post game show.

 

[LittlePipes]

January is going to be really tough

Florida - L, Islanders - L, Winnipeg, Boston, Calgary, Minny, Calgary, Van, Nsh, Pitt, Florida, Tampa, Carolina

Didn't someone say we had one of the easiest schedules for the remainder of the season? I don't see it

We could go ofer in January

February:
Vegas, Nashville, Philly, Minnesota, Carolina, Colorado, Edmonton, Toronto, Winnipeg, Montreal, Toronto

March:
Ottawa, Wsh, Chi, Minny, Detroit, Chi, Minny, Det, NJ, Dallas, Seattle, Dallas, CBus, Nash, NYRags

April:
Van, Vegas, SJ, Seattle, Van, Edmonton, Calgary, Edmonton

unless the level of play and goal tending is bumped up to the next level, and soon, we’re gonna be sucking bubbles. I agree Hayton back in the lineup is a plus, but that aint nearly enough. I’ve often wondered if the players are to relaxed owing to the relatively warm weather, as compared to the crap weather elsewhere this time of year.

unless the level of play and goal tending is bumped up to the next level, and soon, we’re gonna be sucking bubbles. I agree Hayton back in the lineup is a plus, but that aint nearly enough. I’ve often wondered if the players are to relaxed owing to the relatively warm weather, as compared to the crap weather elsewhere this time of year.

but, hey , the Panthers. nix that idea.

unless the level of play and goal tending is bumped up to the next level, and soon, we’re gonna be sucking bubbles. I agree Hayton back in the lineup is a plus, but that aint nearly enough. I’ve often wondered if the players are to relaxed owing to the relatively warm weather, as compared to the crap weather elsewhere this time of year.


but, hey , the Panthers. nix that idea.

its a LOFT problem. Lack Of F**kin Talent

 

[Grimes]

This is just not the type of team we are good against yet. I feel like there are a couple different "builds" of teams right now.

There are
Defense first teams, but with varying offensive output (SEA, PHI, LAK, CAR, CGY)
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Swiss army knives aka jack of all trades masters of none (AZ, VAN, MIN, WSH, COL, DET, TB, BUF)
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Big burley and mean teams who can score (VGK, FLO, NYI, BOS, WPG DAL)
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Run and Gun, some of which have good goaltending (EDM, NJD, NYR, OTT, TOR, NYR, PIT)
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Directionless teams (ANA, CBJ, NSH, STL) and Rebuilders (CHI, SJ)

I think teams can be good or bad in any of these piles (besides true rebuilders who are just bad). If this was paper rock scissors then jack of all teams do best against run and gun and worst against big and burley. Run and gun are best against the defense first, but bad against swos army knives. And defense first seem to handle the big and burley teams the best but struggle vs the run and guns. But big and burley seem to be best against any team build. And directionless teams just seem to be bad against anyone but have surprising wins against anyone

This is totally abstract and not based on anything but the eye test. Some teams are kind of in-between multiple builds too. But just something I've observed and hadn't actually written out until now and felt like it was a fun way to waste ten minutes.

 

[LittlePipes]

This is just not the type of team we are good against yet. I feel like there are a couple different "builds" of teams right now.

There are
Defense first teams, but with varying offensive output (SEA, PHI, LAK, CAR, CGY)
•
•
Swiss army knives aka jack of all trades masters of none (AZ, VAN, MIN, WSH, COL, DET, TB, BUF)
•
•
Big burley and mean teams who can score (VGK, FLO, NYI, BOS, WPG DAL)
•
•
Run and Gun, some of which have good goaltending (EDM, NJD, NYR, OTT, TOR, NYR, PIT)
•
•
Directionless teams (ANA, CBJ, NSH, STL) and Rebuilders (CHI, SJ)

I think teams can be good or bad in any of these piles (besides true rebuilders who are just bad). If this was paper rock scissors then jack of all teams do best against run and gun and worst against big and burley. Run and gun are best against the defense first, but bad against swos army knives. And defense first seem to handle the big and burley teams the best but struggle vs the run and guns. But big and burley seem to be best against any team build. And directionless teams just seem to be bad against anyone but have surprising wins against anyone

This is totally abstract and not based on anything but the eye test. Some teams are kind of in-between multiple builds too. But just something I've observed and hadn't actually written out until now and felt like it was a fun way to waste ten minutes.

nice analysis !
a poll asking which type of team the coyotes should aspire to would be cool

 

[Vinny Boombatz]

nice analysis !
a poll asking which type of team the coyotes should aspire to would be cool

anything but the top 1 (defense first) and bottom 1 (directionless)...I'll take any of the middle 3

2 - Swiss Army Knife
3 - Big, Burly & Mean
4 - Run & Gun (knowing that this one is the most difficult to win the cup with)

So I'd prefer 2 or 3, but gimme 4 over 1 & 5

We did the whole 1 thing w/Tippett and Tocchet for too many years for me to go back to that type of team

 

[Kai Yo T]

anything but the top 1 (defense first) and bottom 1 (directionless)...I'll take any of the middle 3

2 - Swiss Army Knife
3 - Big, Burly & Mean
4 - Run & Gun (knowing that this one is the most difficult to win the cup with)

So I'd prefer 2 or 3, but gimme 4 over 1 & 5

We did the whole 1 thing w/Tippett and Tocchet for too many years for me to go back to that type of team

Same here

 

[Matias Maccete]

early. I think his angst was directed at Durzi.
Todd W and Lindsey referenced it in post game show.

I missed that, hilarious since Durzi has been way more consistent than Keller.

 

[LittlePipes]

I missed that, hilarious since Durzi has been way more consistent than Keller.

agreed !

 

[Tom Polakis]

Some of the comments here make it sound like we played poorly for the full 60 minutes. What I saw after a horrendous first period was the Coyotes dominating for the entire second period, but with one breakaway against. Just couldn’t get one past Sorokin.

Valimaki’s giveaway was bad, but that’s a stoppable shot, as was the one that put them up 4–1. I’m typically not one to blame goalies, but Ingram lost that game for us.

 

[BAdvocate]

Sanford has been better than I expected....and better than any other 12th forward callup they've tried.

Maybe he'll get a goal tonight if Keller is double shifted with him.

Hmmm....waived today...... the opposite impact of starting a 'X' player sucks thread.

Who should I complement next?

 

[moosemeister]

Hmmm....waived today...... the opposite impact of starting a 'X' player sucks thread.

Who should I complement next?

Cooley

 

[Bonsai Tree]

Hmmm....waived today...... the opposite impact of starting a 'X' player sucks thread.

Who should I complement next?

dumba

 

[Imaravencawcaw]

Some of the comments here make it sound like we played poorly for the full 60 minutes. What I saw after a horrendous first period was the Coyotes dominating for the entire second period, but with one breakaway against. Just couldn’t get one past Sorokin.

Valimaki’s giveaway was bad, but that’s a stoppable shot, as was the one that put them up 4–1. I’m typically not one to blame goalies, but Ingram lost that game for us.

Ingram absolutely could have been better, but he didn't lose the game. You can't score 1 goal and ever expect to win.

 

[LittlePipes]

Hmmm....waived today...... the opposite impact of starting a 'X' player sucks thread.

Who should I complement next?

schm0ltz

 

[Jakey53]

Ingram absolutely could have been better, but he didn't lose the game. You can't score 1 goal and ever expect to win.

True, but you might lose momentum.