GDT: Game 33: Red Wings vs flyers 7:00 pm et 12/22/23 (ESPN+, BSD)

Lazlo Hollyfeld

The jersey ad still sucks
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I have no idea how he can say he didn't get his money's worth on that cross check. :D

well, it wasn't the right guy. If it had been Joseph he probably could've gotten his loss of salary covered by fans around the league with a GoFundMe.
 

izlez

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Since we're talking player TOI to blame for our losses, it looks like there's a pretty clear trend between the time we decided to give Veleno top 6 minutes and when we started losing.

Just because he took a nice step forward to probably being an actual NHLer, doesn't mean he needs top 6 minutes or power play time, and it can probably stop now
 
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Ricelund

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Since we're talking player TOI to blame for our losses, it looks like there's a pretty clear trend between the time we decided to give Veleno top 6 minutes and when we started losing.

Just because he took a nice step forward to probably being an actual NHLer, doesn't mean he needs top 6 minutes or power play time, and it can probably stop now
The reason Veleno started getting top six minutes is because Larkin, Compher, and Perron were out... which is what everyone seems to be forgetting about while they're incessantly complaining.
 
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izlez

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The reason Veleno started getting top six minutes is because Larkin, Compher, and Perron were out... which is what everyone seems to be forgetting about while they're incessantly complaining.
You're right about that. I should focus on the fact that now that Larkin, Compher, and Perron are back, I don't understand what Veleno is doing in a top 6 role
 

FMichael

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Ricelund

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Veleno started playing on Larkin's line before Larkin got injured.
Veleno averaged 15:08 TOI through his first 25 games.

While Larkin was out (including the OTT game), he averaged 21:34.

Since Larkin and Compher came back, he's averaged 15:22.
 
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RRhoads

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Veleno averaged 15:08 TOI through his first 25 games.

While Larkin was out (including the OTT game), he averaged 21:34.

Since Larkin and Compher came back, he's averaged 15:22.
Yeah, but that has a lot to do with special teams I think.
 

Detroit Knights

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Did he asked for trade yet?
I don't think he has which makes it worse. He is obviously ruining his legacy and I think he should feel more shame at the fact that his presence made sprong feel inferior and make him feel compelled to give up his number that sprong earned.

turrible.
 
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dalem177

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I'm gonna stay optimistic. I think the boys are mad and Larks maybe flipped a table or two in the dressing room. I think they squeak one out. Say 4 - 3, looking good through SOME of it.

And no one leaves the ice injured.
 
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RedHawkDown

still trying to trust the yzerplan
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Carter Hart about to shut the door. 3-0 Philly. I won’t even predict a winning score this time.

We aren’t allowing less than 3 goals wit that defense. Please prove me wrong.
 

RED WINGS STOMP

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We have scored 1 goal or less in our last 4 against these guys.

Win, please, and score all over them in the process.
 

OgeeOgelthorpe

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You're right about that. I should focus on the fact that now that Larkin, Compher, and Perron are back, I don't understand what Veleno is doing in a top 6 role

Larkin and Compher are clearly not 100%.

Where the team needs the shakeup most is on D. I sound like a broken record but Maatta and Petry have cost this team games this year. They gots to go.
 

theYman

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It's not like the defensive play and goaltending issues just started yesterday. This has been an issue for over 6 yrs now. I looked up the last 10+ yrs where we were in the standings at this time the other day. This team hasn't gained any ground over previous seasons in wins and points since at least 2016-2017. Our last 100 pt season was in 2015.
 

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