PGT: Game 20: United States 4 - Finland 1

[SabresSharks]

I think “pulling so hard” is overstating things. Yeah, we in Victoria have been cheering against whoever the US is playing, but I don’t think anyone has been particularly upset when the US has won, and even though we were largely supporting the Swedes on Friday, I think just about everyone in the building applauded when the US tied it up, because we appreciated the effort and grit. You have to cheer for someone and it’s more fun to cheer for the underdog, which happened all week; we pretty much adopted the Kazakhs, precisely because they were terrible. Yeah, Canadians see the US win at a lot of sports, so we naturally assume they’re the favourites and cheer against them.
Why does it bother you guys so much?

Canadian WJC crowds would cheer for Satan's Demons over the USA.

It doesn't bother me. It makes American victories on Canadian ice that much sweeter.

 

[eartotheground]

I think “pulling so hard” is overstating things. Yeah, we in Victoria have been cheering against whoever the US is playing, but I don’t think anyone has been particularly upset when the US has won, and even though we were largely supporting the Swedes on Friday, I think just about everyone in the building applauded when the US tied it up, because we appreciated the effort and grit. You have to cheer for someone and it’s more fun to cheer for the underdog, which happened all week; we pretty much adopted the Kazakhs, precisely because they were terrible. Yeah, Canadians see the US win at a lot of sports, so we naturally assume they’re the favourites and cheer against them.
Why does it bother you guys so much?

Idk that I’m super bothered about it. It does make me scratch my head a bit as we’re global siblings. I always pull for Canada unless their playing is.

 

[Bedards Dad]

Idk that I’m super bothered about it. It does make me scratch my head a bit as we’re global siblings. I always pull for Canada unless their playing is.

Were global siblings. The family is having a falling out.

For this Canadian I cheer for:

1. Canada
2. Sweden
3. Swiss
4. Norway
5. Underdog teams (Slovakia, Czech, Denmark, etc)
6. US
7. Finland
8. Russia

 

[SabresSharks]

Besides, without WJC crowds, the dark side of the Canadian national psyche would have been forever hidden under that skillfully publicized reputation for excessive politeness.

It's over, guys. We're onto you now.

 

[jj cale]

Besides, without WJC crowds, the dark side of the Canadian national psyche would have been forever hidden under that skillfully publicized reputation for excessive politeness.

It's over, guys. We're onto you now.

Well it's about time, didn't think we could pull it off for as long as we did.

 

[ORRFForever]

Are World Junior threads always like this?

Instead of hockey, all these threads are an excuse to insult.

 

[jj cale]

Are World Junior threads always like this?

Always.

 

[ORRFForever]

Always.

That's too bad.

 

[jj cale]

That's too bad.

Thats HF.

 

[SabresSharks]

That's too bad.

I wouldn't judge them all by this snippet. We're attaining new heights here.

 

[New User Name]

Can someone explain why the fans are pulling so hard against the US?

For this tournament it started New Years eve 2008 after the US went up 3-0 before the 13th minute of the game in Ottawa. After the US goals the players jumped up to the glass, allegedly pointing to the USA on their sweaters which pissed off the crowd. (I don't recall if they did) Canada won the game 7-4. There was also some nasty exchanges on the benches by both teams which Pierre McGuire, an American but working for TSN blamed a US player for starting. I think the US complained loudly after the game about the officiating too.

Then came the overtime goal which gave the US gold at the 2010 tournament were it was reported that American players were singing some silly song about laying a big ole Murica beating on Canada on Canadian soil. (that game was one of the best junior games I've seen)

I guess it also doesn't help that Canadian and American youth teams play each other a lot in yearly tournaments and that just fuels the dislike for each other ON THE ICE.

No different than big rivals like Detroit Compuware and Little Caesars in the US and Toronto Red Wings and Marlboros in the GTHL. (minus the country element)

 

[MeHateHe]

Idk that I’m super bothered about it. It does make me scratch my head a bit as we’re global siblings. I always pull for Canada unless their playing is.

Like I said, it's all kind of good natured, for the most part. At least it is in the rink. Most of the Canadians I saw last night were having friendly conversations with the US fans and were laughing/congratulating them on the way out.

Canadian WJC crowds would cheer for Satan's Demons over the USA.

It doesn't bother me. It makes American victories on Canadian ice that much sweeter.

Depends if Satan's Demons used Sher-Wood sticks or not. If they're skating around with Kohos, forget about it.

 

[New User Name]

Has this been discussed yet?

Both players were fortunate that didn't connect. Could have been very serious if it did.

Was it called?

 

[bigdog16]

Both players were fortunate that didn't connect. Could have been very serious if it did.

Was it called?

He didnt even touch him...

 

[Pia8988]

He didnt even touch him...

Attempt to injure is a match penalty. It wasn’t called and it is an absolute joke.

 

[ORRFForever]

Both players were fortunate that didn't connect. Could have been very serious if it did.

Was it called?

To me, that is an attempt to injure and should result in a game.

 

[bigdog16]

Attempt to injure is a match penalty. It wasn’t called and it is an absolute joke.

That wasnt clear cut enough for it to be an attempt to injure match penalty. You rarely see that call and its usually reserved for a lot more serious situation. This was not one of them. Cates was not going into that hit trying to end the Finnish players career.

 

[Pia8988]

That wasnt clear cut enough for it to be an attempt to injure match penalty. You rarely see that call and its usually reserved for a lot more serious situation. This was not one of them. Cates was not going into that hit trying to end the Finnish players career.

Absolute bullshit. That is as clear of an elbow to the head as ever. Trying to defend it is worse. There was no hockey play neing made. Just a massive blatamt chicken wing.

 

[bigdog16]

Absolute bull****. That is as clear of an elbow to the head as ever.

Haha okay, bud. Elbow comes up after player is already skated past him. Relax

 

[Pia8988]

Haha okay, bud. Elbow comes up after player is already skated past him. Relax

Then how did he make contact with Tolvanen’s visor?

 

[ORRFForever]

This has not been a good year for behaviour at the World Juniors.

That was a shot to the head and should be a game.

Canada's captain should be benched (by the team) for diving.

Hopefully the downward spiral will not continue.

 

[bigdog16]

Then how did he make contact with Tolvanen’s visor?

Uhh I dont think he did. And i think Tolvanen was selling it to try and get a call

 

[ijuka]

Haha okay, bud. Elbow comes up after player is already skated past him. Relax

What? His very elbow hit Tolvanen's visor.

What counts as "elbow coming up" to you?

 

[bigdog16]

What? His very elbow hit Tolvanen's visor.

What counts as "elbow coming up" to you?

Okay and watch the video? Tolvanen dodges it. Regardless thats not an attempt to injure call. You see those when someone kicks or steps on someone on purpose. If this hit connected then yea, itd be a penalty. But it didnt. Guys get blasted from behind all the time and by your logic those should all be attempt to injure because the player is in a prone position, yet it never happens

 

[Pia8988]

Okay and watch the video? Tolvanen dodges it. Regardless thats not an attempt to injure call. You see those when someone kicks or steps on someone on purpose. If this hit connected then yea, itd be a penalty. But it didnt. Guys get blasted from behind all the time and by your logic those should all be attempt to injure because the player is in a prone position, yet it never happens

The only thing happening i this play is an elbow to the head. The only thing that accomplishes is an injury. Attempt to injure.