Discussion in 'Vancouver Canucks' started by PG Canuck, Oct 4, 2013.
I don't see how you can say this when we're watching him play in Buffalo and he's just completely atrocious defensively.
do Kassasin need to score a PPG pace to get some respect
Anyone have any links to any post game video, can't find any, or do they only do it for home games?
Know who would look good on that second line? Cam Neely centre by Gilbert Perreault.
what has he done so far to get some respect? he is still unproven to me.
Hodgson would be great for secondary scoring if he was willing to accept ice time commensurate to his 2 way abilities (i.e. 3rd line EV minutes with heavy PP time) but he wasn't, even as a rookie.
I don't know, I would prefer Malkin with Ovechkin on his wing.
He gets respect when he stops sucking ****.
No but more than 2 goals in the next 45 games might be a start.
Apparently we are all supposed to praise the guy before he proves a thing.
Gillis says no Russians
I believe he would have improved defensively. I never suggested he would become a two way stud. I haven't really watched him in Buffalo but I have heard that he's been terrible defensively. That doesn't mean he can't improve to the point where he's not a liability and the offensive ability he brings trumps his lack of defensive abilities.
No. Kopitar with Perron riding around on his shoulders.
He didn't stand out in a glaring way which I think is good but the few times he had the puck I thought he made the simple play, and he did make that through-the-legs back pass in his own end to get the puck moving. Didn't expect that from him!
Of course it's only 1 game but I thought he already looked better than Alberts, which doesn't bode well for the latter...
Thanks. I feel like such an idiot when I went to the canucks site went to that exact spot and didn't even notice the post game links just saw pre game stuff.
So he's going to do that by like, next week?
You win. We can get White to be the waterboy.
Huh? What? I meant that if things had worked out in Vancouver I'm pretty sure he would have gradually improved in his own end. Maybe he's not getting the right coaching in Buffalo. I don't know. All I know is that one of the good qualities of this organization is that they've been able to develop players from their system well. AV and his staff deserve a nod for that. I do believe that Hodgson would have improved his play in his own end if he wasn't traded. That's all I'm trying to say.
No one is giving Kassian a pass. We are simply highlighting the flaws in Hodgson's game because he was enormously overrated here. We are talking Price equating Roy degrees of overrated. There is little need to reference Kassian's deficiencies when a vocal portion of this board takes every opportunity to specify them ad nauseum.
We do not miss him. Talented or not, he is no longer a Vancouver Canuck and most of us have moved on. Living in past delusions is the habit of a very vocal minority. Were we excited about the possibility of his accession in the lineup? Sure, just as we are about Kassian, who is routinely underrated or outright lambasted for having the audacity of not being our lord and savior, Godson.
Citing Hodgson as a defensive liability is merely an accurate analysis, especially when the context of many posts who insist on mentioning him, insinuate he would be useful in a defensive role, i.e. a third line centre.
I also think it's worth noting that the Sharks were 17-2-5 on home ice last season. Playing the Sharks at home is reminiscent of playing in Detroit a few years ago, a highly skilled offensive team that benefits from an absurd amount of power plays, including at least one 5-on-3 every game.
Realistically, there was very little chance the Canucks were going to win this game. The Sharks had beat them nine times in a row and the Canucks are probably going to struggle a bit at the start of the season while implementing a new system.
That being said, there were some disturbing trends. Outside of the Sedins-Burrows line, no one could generate any sort of consistent offensive pressure. Outside of Stanton, the new depth guys (Richardson, Dalpe, Santorelli) all looked over matched almost every time they were on the ice. I think people are fooling themselves if they think the Canucks have the offensive firepower to compete in the West.
It's all irrelevant anyway; guy simply didn't want to be here.
Looking at the shot attempt numbers I can see why Tanev had so many blocked shots. He (and Stanton) got absolutely slaughtered out there. The team was outshot 17-3 with Tanev on the ice and in terms of shot attempts it was 28-7. Might be more of a function of who they were on the ice with though.
In terms of possession numbers, the top 6 and top 4 did fairly well (the Sharks didn't even register a shot with H. Sedin on the ice) while the depth players got murdered.
The whole team looked like hot garbage tonight. But it's one game, against a team that's had our number for a bit now.
Our days as a SC contender are clearly over, due to Gillis, but that doesn't mean we can't still cheer on our team.
I thought I noticed it was often the 3rd and 4th lines who were out there with them when we were getting hemmed in our own zone.
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