Ogopogo said:
Sundin has never been a dominant NHLer that stood out among the crowd. He is like a Mike Gartner. A guy that was a top 20 or 30 player for a long time but didn't really stand out as a top 3 or top 5.
Totally untrue.
When was Gartner 2nd in the league in goals or 4th in points?
When was Gartner named to a post-season All-star team, never mind doing it twice?
Was Gartner top-10 in league scoring on multiple occasions?
Did Gartner captain an Olympic Gold Medalist or lead the Olympic tournament in scoring?
Sundin has clearly, at various points in the last decade, been a top 5 or so forward in the game. And a top-10 forward for pretty much all of that time. The scoring tables say that, the voters for post-season All-star teams say that, his play in international tourneys says that. To say that he wasn't better than a top 20-30 guy is rubbish.
Gartner had one season where he was 9th in goals and 10th in points. Other than that he was never top-15 in scoring, never a post-season All-star. Their resumes aren't close.
And again, we're getting into your standards for your fictional Hall of Fame. In the real HHOF, he meets the standards easily and is a lock. And so did Gartner.