GDT: Free Agent Frenzy: Rumors,Signings, Trades: July 1st 12pm EST TV- TSN

[enthusiast]

And as long as our 3rd pair is trusted more than Stillman/Bryson/whoever and Boosh were last season.......their time will naturally come down a tic.

Also.....not being injured to hell and back for 20 games would help too.

Absolutely but to that end, fewer minutes lowers the general wear and tear. Won’t meaningfully forestall incidents of injury ofc

 

[Fjordy]

I don't expect everything to go perfectly, but yes I do expect things to get better because that's the far more likely outcome for each of our players based on their individual development cuves.

How many "top 4" defenders are there in the league? Is it 32x4= 128? If so I feel comfortable that Dahlin is top 10, Power and Sammy are each around top 75 currently, and yes Clifton is top 130. If we're judging it based on who has played "top 4 minutes," then Joki qualified most of last year and Clifton didn't because he was stuck behind better players. It's all fairly nebulous.

Clifton could blossom with more opportunity or our lack of structure could bring out the worst in him. We'll see.

Hope for the best, plan for the worst.

Like I said, I like Clifton and might be a good partner for Power. But it's still a risk. Then we need a good goalie in tandem with Levi, maybe some other forward. Moreover, Adams wanted to add some forward to the UFA.

 

[Zman5778]

Granted, this is Larry Brooks we're talking about........so I'm sure some of this info needs to be taken with a grain of salt...........but interesting nonetheless.

 

[Fjordy]

if Jokiharju and EJ can form a solid 3rd pairing (big if, Joker would be off-side)

None of them play LD, that would be bad

 

[Zman5778]

None of them play LD, that would be bad

It COULD be bad. All depends on how well Joker takes to playing off-side full-time.

 

[Fjordy]

It COULD be bad. All depends on how well Joker takes to playing off-side full-time.

If at all playing, we don't know. Maybe he will play RD or in another team, we'll see.

 

[Beerz]

 

[Dubi Doo]

Today in former Sabres signing with new teams:

I really thought this dude was going to be our next Hecht. Pretty crazy how well Olofsson-Mittelstadt-Asplund played two seasons ago only to completely crap the bed last season. I thought they were going to be a solid top-9 line for us.

 

[TheMistyStranger]

Olofsson to Florida. E5.

vo + joker for Bob

 

[Dubi Doo]

Anyone still interested in Hanifin?

Samuelsson-Dahlin
Power-Clifford
Hanifin-Johnson

He probably wouldn't be worth the price it would take to trade for him given how the defense looks today, but that's a nice-looking defense. Obviously, he's pinned on the third pairing, but we'd be going the TB route of having a damn good defenseman on each pair. He can play up, too, in certain situations.

 

[Zman5778]

Anyone still interested in Hanifin?

Samuelsson-Dahlin
Power-Clifford
Hanifin-Johnson

He probably wouldn't be worth the price it would take to trade for him given how the defense looks today, but that's a nice-looking defense. Obviously, he's pinned on the third pairing, but we'd be going the TB route of having a damn good defenseman on each pair. He can play up, too, in certain situations.

It'd be a good (though pricey) hedge if Clifton can't be Power's partner. That said, I doubt Adams is looking at him.

 

[Fjordy]

Anyone still interested in Hanifin?

Samuelsson-Dahlin
Power-Clifford
Hanifin-Johnson

He probably wouldn't be worth the price it would take to trade for him given how the defense looks today, but that's a nice-looking defense. Obviously, he's pinned on the third pairing, but we'd be going the TB route of having a damn good defenseman on each pair. He can play up, too, in certain situations.

VO + 3rd maybe will do it?

If seriously, I think Hanifin would be too expensive for the role.

My options:

Dillon
Martinez
Zadorov
Forbort

Dermott (UFA)
Benoit (UFA)
Jones (UFA)

 

[Beerz]

VO + 3rd maybe will do it?

If seriously, I think Hanifin would be too expensive for the role.

My options:

Dillon
Martinez
Zadorov
Forbort

Dermott (UFA)
Benoit (UFA)
Jones (UFA)

Give me Zadorov!

 

[Dingo44]

Give me Zadorov!

I like Zads but between Joker, Boosh, Stillman, and E. Johnson, we're covered for 3rd pairing. Stillman, Clifton, and Boosh have enough snarl as well.

 

[SundherDome]

This is great, Carolina needs goal scoring still

 

[Fjordy]

I like Zads but between Joker, Boosh, Stillman, and E. Johnson, we're covered for 3rd pairing. Stillman, Clifton, and Boosh have enough snarl as well.

I think it's a question of which of them can effectively play LD? Only Stillman LD and he's probably #7-#8 on a good team.

 

[Beerz]

 

[Grinder44]

I'm not sure if he has that list, feeling like they're confusing him with Slavin, look at CapFriendly. Adams added two RDs of the third pair. I like Clifton, but he's not a legit top 4 yet. EJ can't play well in the top 4 anymore. When Adams signed Boosh, we also thought he might play in the top 4 with Power, but that didn't happen. Pesce is a very solid and proven top 4 D, you can even say he can easily play the minutes of the first pair when Dahlin, Power or Samuelsson get injured.

So far I'm not very happy with Adams' moves this offseason, hopefully there will be more to come. And yet I like Clifton.

Johnson & Clifton give the team more NHL experience and more NHL depth this season. I think we'll see one of them on the second pair with Power. Whoever pairs with Power is not going to have to carry the pairing -- simply provide solid, veteran play while Power carries the load. At this point, I would be very surprised if they add a top 4 D. I do see them moving at least one NHL depth D.

 

[Dingo44]

Man, would it be something if Dunn goes to arbitration. Jeannot too.

Imagine if both Dunn and Borgen get to arbitration and Dunn's award is so high and Borgen's is high enough they decline to sign Borgen?

 

[Fjordy]

Johnson & Clifton give the team more NHL experience and more NHL depth this season. I think we'll see one of them on the second pair with Power. Whoever pairs with Power is not going to have to carry the pairing -- simply provide solid, veteran play while Power carries the load. At this point, I would be very surprised if they add a top 4 D. I do see them moving at least one NHL depth D.

Probably yes, but Friedman said Buffalo is still on Pesce. If such a defender is available, you are at least trying to get him despite the addition of Clifton and EJ.

 

[littletonhockeycoach]

Granted, this is Larry Brooks we're talking about........so I'm sure some of this info needs to be taken with a grain of salt...........but interesting nonetheless.

It's likely that Tarasenko isn't coming to Buffalo.

There is also a likelihood that he and his agents (old and new) are pain in the asses to work with. I can understand when a GM says "he's a good player and will fill a need but no thank you. I don't need the added bs.

 

[Chainshot]

Seattle with a a trio of defensemen filing for arbitration - Dunn, Fleury and Borgen.

NHL salary arbitration period completed | NHL.com

Kurashev, Samsonov, Swayman each awarded contract, all others sign prior to hearing

www.nhl.com

 

[Dubi Doo]

Seattle with a a trio of defensemen filing for arbitration - Dunn, Fleury and Borgen.

NHL salary arbitration period completed | NHL.com

Kurashev, Samsonov, Swayman each awarded contract, all others sign prior to hearing

www.nhl.com

I'd still love to have Borgen on our 3rd pairing. Pipe dream, i know.

 

[KrakenSabresMike]

Seattle with a a trio of defensemen filing for arbitration - Dunn, Fleury and Borgen.

NHL salary arbitration period completed | NHL.com

Kurashev, Samsonov, Swayman each awarded contract, all others sign prior to hearing

www.nhl.com

Fleury is an ahl/nhl tweeter so that’s a small contract - the only one that could cause them trouble is Dunn - don’t see any way that they’re trading Borgen nor that we’d currently be interested with our signings

Probably yes, but Friedman said Buffalo is still on Pesce. If such a defender is available, you are at least trying to get him despite the addition of Clifton and EJ.

If we add those 3 and subtract any other 2 D besides our big 3 that’s chef’s kiss. Also, the longer this goes personally I feel the lower the prices to acquire the player.

 

[truthbluth]

Fleury is an ahl/nhl tweeter so that’s a small contract - the only one that could cause them trouble is Dunn - don’t see any way that they’re trading Borgen nor that we’d currently be interested with our signings


If we add those 3 and subtract any other 2 D besides our big 3 that’s chef’s kiss. Also, the longer this goes personally I feel the lower the prices to acquire the player.

Maybe you can explain to me why Fleury filed for arbitration. Seems super weird to me. He should be happy just to get a QO.