Free Agency 2015

patty59

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Barret Jackman, would add some more snarl and send the advanced stats people running for the Tobin bridge.

I think they will make a run at Stewart and Franson, not be able to afford them and settle on St, Louis and Jackman. Size at forward would become a big issue if they get St.Louis

I'd be good with Jackman.
 

InterimGM

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I know nothing about advanced stats and am very happy about it. When they can measure intensity and intimidation and when they don't try to convince me Phil Kessel is a good hockey player and can help a team win a cup let me know and I will pay attention, until then I will give them the same respect I give to all the Bill James's and stat geeks who have never played a game in their lives just sit and analyze. None.

That's called blissfully ignorant. Kudos.

The second part, I'd actually guess a ton of people well versed in the 5th grade math you consider advanced stats are better than you at sports too. Which has to be depressing.
 

InterimGM

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I would prefer he does not. :laugh:

I'm not going to say that, because everything I prefered they didn't do outside of the Lucic trade they've done.

So I hope they sign Stewart and Beleskey to ridiculous contracts, and I hope they trade Rask for futures.
 

pfw19

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He makes 4.5M for 2 more years. I'm pretty sure I'd pass, but I'm still on tilt from all the moves this weekend.
 
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PatriceBergeronFan

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Bickell nearly lost the Hawks the playoffs in that OT when he couldn't even get the puck in deep and tried a slapshot on goal from center ice. He turned it over and an odd man rush was the GWG.
 

expy

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Hearing that the San Jose Sharks have acquired Martin Jones from the Boston Bruins
 

BB88

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Same here... Franson and Frolik... went over the list yesterday and these are the two I want here.

I heard Frolik wants to be a Hab.

I am convinced Martin St Louis is headed here.

I can't even believe this but right now that would be a huge huge huge signing for us, we all know that would be very short contract and it would stop us from doing anything stupid :help:

and we would have some crazy money next offseason, kelly, lucic, MLS+ cap going up we'd have some shopping money= easily over 10M :laugh: but what crazy signings we would do with that :help:
 

Fenian24

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That's called blissfully ignorant. Kudos.

The second part, I'd actually guess a ton of people well versed in the 5th grade math you consider advanced stats are better than you at sports too. Which has to be depressing.

Well I'm 48 so I would hope they would be better at sports than me now, also I don't live in mom's basement with a poster of Bill James and fantasy hockey books.

Stat geekery seems to be working great for the Red Sox, why watch the game when you can look at a advanced statistical analysis, seems like a great idea :shakehead

Now let's bring that concept to hockey where stats mean even less and zone possession, shots attempted and shots not taken probably make more sense to you because you have never been hit by a defenseman in your life and can't skate three feet without holding onto a chair, probably with a computer on it to tell you what's wrong with your skating.

As soon as advanced stats can tell me when a forward turns out of the corners because he doesn't want to be hit, when a defenseman rushes a pass because he knows he is going to get hit or when a soft, skilled player who thrives vs other soft teams but chokes vs physical teams that target him then I will put stock in them. Until then I will look at them as the world of geeks who couldn't play sports and just wanted so badly to be involved in some way they had to invent a way to try to fit in.
 

InterimGM

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Well I'm 48 so I would hope they would be better at sports than me now, also I don't live in mom's basement with a poster of Bill James and fantasy hockey books.

Stat geekery seems to be working great for the Red Sox, why watch the game when you can look at a advanced statistical analysis, seems like a great idea :shakehead

Now let's bring that concept to hockey where stats mean even less and zone possession, shots attempted and shots not taken probably make more sense to you because you have never been hit by a defenseman in your life and can't skate three feet without holding onto a chair, probably with a computer on it to tell you what's wrong with your skating.

As soon as advanced stats can tell me when a forward turns out of the corners because he doesn't want to be hit, when a defenseman rushes a pass because he knows he is going to get hit or when a soft, skilled player who thrives vs other soft teams but chokes vs physical teams that target him then I will put stock in them. Until then I will look at them as the world of geeks who couldn't play sports and just wanted so badly to be involved in some way they had to invent a way to try to fit in.

Here's the problem. You seem to make it sound like Advanced Stats = Anti Physicality. That's wrong and no surprisingly, ignorant on your part. Perhaps the player Advanced Stats loves the most is Patrice Bergeron. Is he any of the mocking things you describe? No. And like I said, the snarly Barrett Jackman does well with advanced stats. As does Zdeno Chara. There are plenty of soft players advanced stats doesn't approve of as well. It's not really all that big on Ryan Spooner for example. So you can spare me your uninformed indignation.

The Red Sox have won 3 World Series in the last what, 12 years using that stuff. How'd they do in the previous 12 (x 7)?

Also, I've been hit by more defenseman than I care to admit. I wish I were faster on my skates so that would happen less personally, but I don't turn away from s***. But again, all you really know about me is that I can comprehend 5th grade math.
 

Joe Zanussi

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Guys I'd really like: Jackman or Fehr (but we wont get either)

Guys who I like and they could get: Richardson, Slater, Irwin

Guy I'd take a shot on: Paajarvi
 

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