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Ratitude said:
Definitely some exciting news as the league continues to grow, good news for sure

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Could hockey make a return to South Jersey?

Could hockey make a return to South Jersey?
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Right, because a garbage league expanding into a rec rink in a rural, remote part of the state with limited population is good news.

Who will their GM run from behind?
 
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jabberoski said:
The letter from the FPHL to the ownership group is worth the entertainment to click the link and read it.
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It seems like the salutation should have read: "Dear Sir and/or Madam ... ." :blush:

But it seems the article's author Mike Gill (or his editor) has much greater expectations, by choice of the accompanying photo. "South Joisey Bullies" anyone?

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CrazyEddie20 said:
Right, because a garbage league expanding into a rec rink in a rural, remote part of the state with limited population is good news.

Who will their GM run from behind?
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The funny part is the address on the letterhead. It goes to a private residence. The FPHL is run out of a house?
 
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JMCx4 said:
It seems like the salutation should have read: "Dear Sir and/or Madam ... ." :blush:

But it seems the article's author Mike Gill (or his editor) has much greater expectations, by choice of the accompanying photo. "South Joisey Bullies" anyone?

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I highly doubt there will ever be a full-time hockey tenant at Boardwalk Hall again. The Bullies were heavily dependent on state tourism subsidies to make ends meet, and when those went away, the membership was quickly sold to Stockton. Now, the ownership did things on the cheap the final two seasons in AC, sure - there was little, if any, marketing budget, and at the 20 or so games I saw there in 03-04 and 04-05, there were about 20 or so people there. Not a recipe for success.

And it's not like the greater Atlantic City area has much to offer. The casinos don't want to get behind anything that will take people away from the tables and slots. There's no other industry, and the population that is there during hockey season either works in the casinos or are, uh, the dregs of society and don't have money to go to hockey games.
 
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CrazyEddie20 said:
I wonder what's worth more - the entirety of the FPHL as a going concern, or this shitty house in Binghamton?

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Your comment about someone's home shown from Zillow is pretty insensitive. Especially hypocritical coming from someone who tries to portray themself as an "advocate" for labor and againts those terrible FPHL owners who exploit their players. Growing up I would have felt on top of the world in that home. Do us a favor if your going to run the "workers of the world" solidarity and woke racket really apply it to your beliefs. Bashing a decent home of a family tells us all we need to know about your character.
 
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CrazyEddie20 said:
Spoiler alert: That's one of the nicest houses in Binghamton.
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Growing up smack in the middle of Albany that suburban home would have been a dream. My mom used to take two buses to her job and never complained so growing up living in a home like that would have been like hitting lotto. Even my today my conservative self would never bash someone's home. You are a piece of work, there are kids who probably happily call that place home. Binghamton is a nice town, with good people. Beats Chicago or any other town that the machine political powers have gotten their hands on and ruined....😏🙄
 
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Growing up smack in the middle of Albany that suburban home would have been a dream. My mom used to take two buses to her job and never complained so growing up living in a home like that would have been like hitting lotto. Even my today my conservative self would never bash someone's home. You are a piece of work, there are kids who probably happily call that place home. Binghamton is a nice town, with good people. Beats Chicago or any other town that the machine political powers have gotten their hands on and ruined....😏🙄
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Your comment about someone's home shown from Zillow is pretty insensitive. Especially hypocritical coming from someone who tries to portray themself as an "advocate" for labor and againts those terrible FPHL owners who exploit their players. Growing up I would have felt on top of the world in that home. Do us a favor if your going to run the "workers of the world" solidarity and woke racket really apply it to your beliefs. Bashing a decent home of a family tells us all we need to know about your character.
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No, I don't think it's hypocritical at all - why?

Start with this: A league that can't secure proper insurance for players, that allows a 49-year-old GM with no playing experience to dress for a game and deliberately injure the opposing team's leading scorer, that has zombie teams to fill out schedules, that allows an owner's wife to physically assault game officials, that is funded with money from selling instruments of gun violence, THAT CAN'T AFFORD OFFICE SPACE AND IS RUN OUT OF A HOUSE IN BINGHAMTON, NEW YORK needs to be exposed for the fraud that it is.

Sorry you had a poor childhood. Maybe your parents should have done what your conservative self preaches and gotten an education and pulled themselves up by their bootstraps! Do us a favor, if you want to whine about how rough you had it as a kid, go pay a therapist.

I'd live in Chicago over Binghamton or Albany any day of the week. I've lived in Albany and I've visited Binghamton. They're cities that never reinvented themselves and withered on the vine, largely because white flight destroyed the tax base and the politicians that run them did nothing to keep jobs there. You say you wouldn't bash someone's home, and then bash the city of Chicago, home to 2.8 million people.

Enjoy watching no hockey in Albany, America's single-worst sports market.
 
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Michael Smitley said:
Guys, I've been obsessing over this house in Binghamton. It's also shown on the same FPHL letterhead on the About section of the league website. So far, I found out this is also the address for Syracuse Junior Hockey Club Inc which is also somehow associated with Don Kirman. More to come after I find it
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If only a media outlet would do an investigation into the Junior Hockey and FPHL scams. If only!

A search of the NY Secretary of State's database of registered business entities returns Don Kirnan's name as the registered agent and an address in Dewitt, N.Y., which is suburban Syracuse, for Syracuse Junior Hockey Club Inc. Obviously, he's farming out some level of administration to whomever lives in the house in Binghamton.
 
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Ratitude said:
Your comment about someone's home shown from Zillow is pretty insensitive. Especially hypocritical coming from someone who tries to portray themself as an "advocate" for labor and againts those terrible FPHL owners who exploit their players. Growing up I would have felt on top of the world in that home. Do us a favor if your going to run the "workers of the world" solidarity and woke racket really apply it to your beliefs. Bashing a decent home of a family tells us all we need to know about your character.
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So? I grew up dirt poor, you don't hear me crying. If anything it encourages me to see what I can do make sure others never have to go through it, and carnies like Kirnan only exploit that.
 
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CrazyEddie20 said:
And now a new question arises: Who's Jun Liu?
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I think they're just the previous owner of the house. Don probably moved from Syracuse to Binghamton. Binghamton plays in an actual arena so it probably makes him feel good. If only Broome County officials would wake up and realize what they got themselves into by leasing the county owned arena to this so-called hockey league.
 
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elmo13 said:
I think they're just the previous owner of the house. Don probably moved from Syracuse to Binghamton. Binghamton plays in an actual arena so it probably makes him feel good. If only Broome County officials would wake up and realize what they got themselves into by leasing the county owned arena to this so-called hockey league.
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I stand corrected: Looks like Jun Liu is on the deed as well. This person has a Syracuse address as well. Who knows what is going on.
 
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elmo13 said:
I stand corrected: Looks like Jun Liu is on the deed as well. This person has a Syracuse address as well. Who knows what is going on.
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As stated, if only we still had investigation journalists around and not corporate shills who echoed the same puff pieces out of fear of losing access. Kind of depressing that we are the ones who recognize the scam.

And the scam aims to get bigger.
 
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As stated, if only we still had investigation journalists around and not corporate shills who echoed the same puff pieces out of fear of losing access. Kind of depressing that we are the ones who recognize the scam.

And the scam aims to get bigger.
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When you have so many easy marks, it's easy to keep the con going.

The more knuckle-dragging troglodyte "hockey fans" who want to see bad hockey fights show up, the bigger the FPHL gets. The problem is that these "fans" don't actually want to see good hockey. They want to see fights, and they conflate fighting, an element of the pro game, with the entire sport.
 
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CrazyEddie20

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Barclay Donaldson said:
I haven't seen any statistic beside attendance and their attendance stat is highly inaccurate.
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The next low minor league team to accurately count their attendance will be the first.

Similarly, the next municipally-operated arena to not screw a minor league team on game settlements will be the first.
 
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