forgotten debate: Sidney Crosby VS Jonathan Toews

[backtobackplus1]

Considering the recent toews news....

In the summer of 2015, how many of you thought toews was the better player?

i know a bunch of my friends thought crosby put up empty stats, while toews was more important to winning. I think the NHL media was split 50/50 on the debate. obviously this argument ceased to exist post- 2016.

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[ChaosAgent]

Considering the recent toews news....

In the summer of 2015, how many of you thought toews was the better player?

i know a bunch of my friends thought crosby put up empty stats, while toews was more important to winning. I think the NHL media was split 50/50 on the debate. obviously this argument ceased to exist post- 2016.

I would be more interested in this on a general board. We would say Crosby of course.

 

[Fordy]

never thought he was comparable to crosby or malkin

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Prucha > Crosby

 

[Malkinstheman]

Toews was never better than Sid. Was so annoying hearing people on HF acting like Toews was better because of "leadership" or rings. Sid really shut them up after 2016/2017

 

[PensandCaps]

Prime Toews was fantastic though.

 

[ChaosAgent]

Realistically Toews was the 3rd-4th best player in his own team during those cups. Hossa and Keith were for sure better

 

[Pens1566]

Captain Intangibles ...

 

[SEALBound]

The teams Toews had in 2010, 2013, and 2015 were better than any team Sid had until 2016/2017...and even then it was debatable as Toews had Kane or Hossa while Sid has Sheary, Horny, Rust, and Jake (those Jake was good).

You could easily go tit-for-tat when it comes to big goals being scored at big times.

 

[The GM]

was the debate over who had more skillz, or who threw the bigger hissy fits?

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Never thought he was as good as people said he was.

Looking back I think I was correct.

 

[HandshakeLine]

What dipshit voted for Toews?

 

[Peat]

What dipshit voted for Toews?

Presumably someone abusing multiple votes for laughs.

 

[Turin]

Toews is actually underrated now because he was so overrated and that caught up to him. But no he was never better than Crosby.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

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says Crosby

 

[Kristopher Letang]

This one is better imo

 

[Genetic]

Toews is one of the greatest 2nd line Centers of all time.

 

[backtobackplus1]

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says Crosby

that 3-9-3 record is horrific. although Crosby is the clear better player, its a good thing we didnt meet in the stanley cup final. would not have gone well

 

[mpp9]

Only those who can’t distinguish between team and individual success would say Toews was anywhere near Sid’s level.

Dude was flanked by some of the best players of the post-lockout era for years. Anytime their bottom six depth got chopped, they were out in the 1st round. And when the big boys got older/retired/moved on, they were a lotto team.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Toews versus Malkin isn't even close. Nevermind Toews versus Crosby.

 

[Andy99]

You can always tell when it’s that time of the summer: the silly threads keeping popping up on this Board…

 

[Beau Knows]

1. Barzal
2. Toews
3. Giroux
4. Crosby

 

[Hoverhand]

The whole Captain Intangibles thing doesn't really hold up when one of your perceived strongest qualities, leadership, was revealed to be a massive blindside.

 

[tom_servo]

In 06 my hope was to draft Toews or Backstrom (or Phil!). We made out ok but I wonder how it would've turned out with Toews as a 3C/2C in those days. Or Kessel from day 1.

 

[Ryder71]

Prime Toews was fantastic though.

Better than Sid.

In 06 my hope was to draft Toews or Backstrom (or Phil!). We made out ok but I wonder how it would've turned out with Toews as a 3C/2C in those days. Or Kessel from day 1.

I was clamoring for Toews, but to no avail.