Forecaster 2005 draft - top 30

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  1. Fozz

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    Any mock draft/draft list is an interesting read. Last week, Forecaster came out with their top 30:

    http://www.forecaster.ca/thestar/hockey/extras.cgi?draft2005-30prospects

    1. Sidney Crosby, C
    Rimouski Oceanic (QMJHL), 5-11, 193

    2. Gilbert Brule, C
    Vancouver Giants (WHL), 5-10, 175

    3. Jack Johnson, D
    USNTDP (U-18), 6-1, 201

    4. Anze Kopitar, C
    Sodertalje SK jr. (Sweden), 6-2, 202

    5. Benoit Pouliot, LW
    Sudbury Wolves (OHL), 6-3, 179

    6. Bobby Ryan, RW
    Owen Sound Attack (OHL), 6-1, 213

    7. Tuukka Rask, G
    Ilves Tampere jr. (Finland), 6-2, 176

    8. Guillaume Latendresse, RW
    Drummondville Voltigeurs (QMJHL), 6-2, 216

    9. Kenndal McArdle, LW
    Moose Jaw Warriors (WHL), 5-11, 190

    10. Alex Bourret, C
    Lewiston MAINEiacs (QMJHL), 5-10, 209

    11. Nicklas Bergfors, RW
    Sodertalje SK jr. (Sweden), 5-10, 192

    12. Marek Zagrapan, C
    Chicoutimi Sagueneens (QMJHL), 6-1, 195

    13. Carey Price, G
    Tri-City Americans (WHL), 6-3, 222

    14. Jack Skille, RW
    USNTDP (U-18), 6-1, 198

    15. Ryan O'Marra, C
    Erie Otters (OHL), 6-2, 193

    16. Marc Staal, D
    Sudbury Wolves (OHL), 6-4, 196

    17. Ryan Parent, D
    Guelph Storm (OHL), 6-2, 183

    18. Luc Bourdon, D
    Val d'Or Foreurs (QMJHL), 6-3, 199

    19. Ryan Stoa, C
    USNTDP (U-18), 6-3, 200

    20. Jakub Kindl, D
    Kitchener Rangers (OHL), 6-3, 199

    21. Devin Setoguchi, RW
    Saskatoon Blades (WHL), 6-0, 186

    22. Brian Lee, D
    Moorhead High School (USHSW), 6-3, 202

    23. Jean-Philippe Levasseur, G
    Rouyn-Noranda Huskies (QMJHL), 6-1, 184

    24. Alexandre Vincent, G
    Chicoutimi Sagueneens (QMJHL), 6-4, 193

    25. Matt Lashoff, D
    Kitchener Rangers (OHL), 6-2, 201

    26. Dan Bertram, RW
    Boston College (Hockey East), 5-11, 175

    27. Denis Istomin, C/RW
    Traktor Chelyabinsk (Russia), 6-1, 194

    28. Andrew Cogliano, C
    St. Michael's Buzzers (Ontario Jr. A), 5-10, 178

    29. Sergei Shirokov, RW
    CSKA Moscow jr. (Russia), 5-10, 169

    30. Danny Syvret, D
    London Knights (OHL), 6-0, 203
     
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    McArdle at #9? Shirokov at #29? Syvret at #30? Don't you think those teams would wait and try to nab those 2 undrafted prospects in the later rounds?
     
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    Good to see Zagrapan in the top 15.
    No way kopitar AND Pouliot goes ahead of Ryan.
     
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    which of these d-men are physical bruisers,with the upside to develop into top 2/3 defenseman?
     
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    Staal and Parent are the most physical, Lee is probably third and Kindle and Bourdon last two.
     
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    I'm with Steblick, I see Kindl dropping to the 2nd. He has everything except what a dman needs most. One cool thing would be for an Ottawa to take him and develop him.
     
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    Jason MacIsaac and borro thanks for the info :yo:
     
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    Strange... In the 2 games I saw Bourdon play this year, I though he was very physical.
     
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    :lol: Syvret in the 1st?!?! I wouldn't take him till the 6th earliest.
     
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    yeah, if you're thinking for the islanders (which you obviously are ;) ) i think staal if available would be a great pick..

    awesome work ethic and character, as a kid he's tough on himself sometimes, but it's because he hates it when he gets beat during a game, or makes a mistake... competes really really hard.. the kind of guy it seems that is a future leader (not going to get into the future captain thing) but this guy has got some character
     
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    That's what I noticed. I seriously doubt Shirokov and Syvret make the first round, and if McKardle does it will be a bit lower. From what I've read, I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't a single Russian player picked in the first round this year. Just not a very good crop of players to pick from.
     
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    I'd agree that Bourdon is the most physical but also the least positionally sound of the three by a fair margin.
     
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    Bourdon is average physically if anything but not near Staal, Parent and Lee. There is difference between a physical defensmen in the Q and a physical defensmen in the OHL or WHL.
     
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    Really? And what exactly would that difference be? A physical player is a physical no matter what league he plays in. Is Denis Gauthier less physical because he played in the Q?
     
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    No Laakso... :dunno:
     
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    I'm pretty sure Staal will end up in Carolina. He seems like a surebet NHLer and JR loves that type of guy, he'll most likely make a reach, grab him and unite the 2 bros.
     
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    If they intend to draft him, I hope the trade down a few spots and get something else with him.
     
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    They'll probably get to draft somewhere like 8th or so... it's not that bad of a reach, and JR is pretty lame at everything he does.
     
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    They don't play the same game when the players are bigger and stronger. I have seen Bourdon plenty of times, his physical game isn't his best strength. Picard is more physical for the Mooseheads.
     
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    Glad to see Latendresse back in the top 10.
     
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    sounds like a good pick.

    Mad Mike went for work ethic and character in the 1st round of the 2004 draft,leaving better offensive forwards on the board.
     
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    I really don't like this top 30.
     
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    I agree that the physicality isn't as high in the Q as it is in the O and the W. I see it as Staal, Parent, Kindl, Bourdon, Lee. That's how I would go.

    But I have to disagree with one point. How is Bourdon 'nor near' Lee? I don't see how there is any way US High School is close to being as physical as the Q. Admittedly, Bourdon does not play in the WHL, which is much more physical, but we can't discount what he brings simply because he plays in the Q league. Also, I personally can't see how a high school kid can be said to be superior physically to Bourdon who playing in the Q and fighting against 20/21 year olds.

    If we take them on an individual basis okay (and I agree, Staal and Parent are more so), but you can't say Bourdon plays in the Q therefore he's not as physical and then say that Lee, who plays High School, is more physical.
     
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    If anyone wants to see Bourdon fights , just PM me, i have a couple.
     
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    Brian Lee to North Dakota to New Jersey, unless Devils move up in a weighted lottery.
     
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