Flyers Players Mt. Rushmore

[Sawdalite]

Hypothetically speaking; Flyers Organization desides to erect a Mt. Rushmore on the Northside of the WFC, consisting of four all-time great Flyers Players... representing the first 50 Seasons.

At the Planning Meeting, Clarke and Parent are unanimously chosen as the first two Players for the Monument... and then they get into a heated discussion about who the other two Players should be.

At one point Bill Barber would have seemed to be a slam dunk for one of them... but as time has passed, and deep thought has been applied, it becomes apparent that it is actually a deep pack for the last two slots... with strong arguments being made for at least eight Players.

Bill Barber - HHoF Member who Scored most Goals.

Mark Howe - HHoF Member and clearly best D-Man

Eric Lindros - HHoF Member, Generational NHL Player, Points per Game Leader

Brian Propp - Great Stats and near top of most major all-time categories

Tim Kerr - Power Play Goal, Goals per Game and Shots% Leader

Ron Hextall - Most Wins and Games Played in Goal

Claude Giroux - Great Stats and near top of most major all-time categories

John LeClair (Dark Horse Candidate) - Leader in Adjusted Goals.

Please vote for up to THREE Players for the two slots and comment on reasons in Thread... you may change your Votes... I'll keep this open through the remainder of the Season... Enjoy.

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[LegionOfDoom91]

Dave Babych, Kent Manderville, Adam Burt, & Luke Richardson.

 

[Sombastate]

Dave Babych, Kent Manderville, Adam Burt, & Luke Richardson.

Bryzgalov, Hakstol, Reno Mahe, the dog from Frazier

 

[Sombastate]

I think Barber, Giroux and Hextal have the best argument for the other 2 spots.

 

[BringBackHakstol]

Giroux, Lindros, Howe

 

[Sawdalite]

Bryzgalov, Hakstol, Reno Mahe, the dog from Frazier

Eddie was Frasier's father's dog... but personally, I'd go with Murray Buchman ahead of him... but hey, that's just me.

 

[kudymen]

How can Giroux be up there when he's not elite?

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

I said Barber, Howe, and Propp. Giroux being an active player I couldn't vote for him. LeClair is my all time favorite but I don't think his numbers stack up with the aforementioned guys. Plus I think all three I voted for wore Cooperalls.

 

[Sawdalite]

I'm thinking here that Barber will not get much support from the younger people here who never saw him play.

Giroux is at a disadvantage in that his Final Stats are yet to be... although that doesn't seem to be hurting him presently in the voting. Haha

 

[Sawdalite]

Dave Babych, Kent Manderville, Adam Burt, & Luke Richardson.

That's four Choices... No soup for you.

 

[BringBackHakstol]

Giroux has played in a lot lower scoring era than Barber, as far as i know. Even with that, Giroux should easily catch him before end of his career.

I’ll Admit that he’s before my time so maybe not giving enough credit.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

All of the Hall of Famers (and if you need to remove one, pick the one who has worse stats to get the boot)

/closed

 

[renberg]

Barber and Howe. Barber has 420 reasons and two SCs to show why he belongs there. Not that he was the sole reason but without Barber, there would not have been any Cups. Howe, simply because he was the best defenseman that the club has ever had for the ten seasons that he was here.

 

[FlyTimmo]

Trent Klatt x4

 

[FlyerFaithful17]

Lindros and Howe in order to have a defenseman. If Giroux brings a Cup home (or makes some deep runs) this will likely change my mind.

 

[Sawdalite]

Giroux has played in a lot lower scoring era than Barber, as far as i know. Even with that, Giroux should easily catch him before end of his career.

I’ll Admit that he’s before my time so maybe not giving enough credit.

Giroux has a very good shot at catching Barber on Total Points... basically zero shot in catching Barber on Goals Scored, which is where Barber has a large lead in with Flyers.

Barber's Era was not that much greater in Scoring IIRC... Propp and Howe have the greatest advantage in Era helping them... and I suppose Kerr also, although he was a beast at any time... and was in an Era where they were allowed to pound his back unmercifully. Eras do come into play, I agree.

Also, Barber was a great all-around, Two-Way Forward who is in the HHoF... Giroux's fate in that is yet to be determined. All that said, the gap is sk much closer today than it was not that long ago, as I see it.

 

[magnumpi]

Lindros/Howe

then Barber

2035 -

Carter Hart
Jack Hughes
Provorov

after 7 cup wins

when will the flyer dynasty end? that's what the rest of the NHL is saying

 

[Beef Invictus]

Howe, Giroux, Gritty.


It's hard not voting for Lindros and I didn't do that easily.

 

[Rebels57]

Lindros and Ed Snider

 

[Sawdalite]

Lindros and Ed Snider

There may be future Monuments for Off-Ice Greats... and maybe a Captains one.

 

[StarterHart]

Howe followed by Barber and Giroux. Barber right now, though I think G has a legit shot at passing him up. I can't believe I would have to leave Lindros off, but here we are.

 

[BernieParent]

I would go with Shero (!), Howe, and Leach, with lots of mountain room left for Giroux awhile after he is retired and in the HHOF.

 

[Here4ThaLids]

Are you looking for the four best players based on talent or the players who are "most Flyer"? If it's the latter, I think I'd go with Holmgren and Hextall. Not because they are recently in our minds, and not because they've served the organ-eye-zation in multiple roles, but strictly for on-ice style, character, etc. The only player unarguably more representative is Clarke.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Sometimes I wonder if Rick MacLeish deserves consideration for one of those last two spots due to his incredible playoff performances, particularly integral to the 2 Cup wins. And he is 5th all time in team points.

 

[Sawdalite]

Are you looking for the four best players based on talent or the players who are "most Flyer"? If it's the latter, I think I'd go with Holmgren and Hextall. Not because they are recently in our minds, and not because they've served the organ-eye-zation in multiple roles, but strictly for on-ice style, character, etc. The only player unarguably more representative is Clarke.

I guess the best way to look at it would be like the Presidents on the real Mt. Rushmore... I'm thinking People who best represent their Positions within their residence... be it through their Legacy of Work... Accomplishments... Acceptance... Leadership... In other words, I suppose the four Players that you would best want to REPRESENT your Organization... in manner and deed.

Be it innate talent like Lindros and Howe... work and dedication like Clarke and Barber... accomplishment like Parent, Kerr and Leclair... consistancy like Propp and Giroux... Fire and determination like Hextall and Clarke... a mix and match like the makeup of all the Players on the Ballot.

Holmgren was indeed pretty much a prototypical Flyer in the mold of the Organization's directives, dating back to the Bullies Era... but IMO much of Homer's Legacy was after he hung up his skates... if you believe he did enough as a Player, I certainly respect that and gladly place him in the Other Category.

HTH