Flyers Over/Under 76.5 points

[Ghosts Beer]

The Vegas line for the Flyers' total points in 22/23 is 76.5.

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[deadhead]

That's about where I have them 75-80, Torts isn't concerned about winning this year, he's going to put the team through the gaunlet, and eliminate the players who don't play 200 feet.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

I have them at around 86, but could surprise further.

 

[scumpup]

63

 

[Beef Invictus]

That's about where I have them 75-80, Torts isn't concerned about winning this year, he's going to put the team through the gaunlet, and eliminate the players who don't play 200 feet.

That's not his job

 

[TCTC]

I'd say over, but barely. 80-85 points. Not enough to make the playoffs, but hopefully bad enough to cost Fletcher his job.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

For the record, 76.5 is the 5th-lowest O/U on DraftKings.

Bottom 12:

1. Arizona: 65.5
1. Chicago: 65.5
3. Montreal: 71.5
4. San Jose: 74.5
5. Philadelphia: 76.5
6. Buffalo: 77.5
7. Anaheim: 80.5
7. Columbus: 80.5
9. Seattle: 81.5
10. Detroit: 84.5
11. Ottawa: 86.5
12. Winnipeg: 87.5

(the rest are 90+)

 

[BringBackHakstol]

Over. But thats's still pathetic

 

[Tripod]

All we need is a 16 point increase to get the over

 

[Magua]

This team can't "eliminate the players who don't play 200 feet" because most don't play in the offensive zone.

 

[Beef Invictus]

This team can't "eliminate the players who don't play 200 feet" because most don't play in the offensive zone.

I have severe doubts that Fletcher is going to suddenly stop acquiring all his preferred player types because an employee who plans on retiring in a few years tells him to.

 

[freakydallas13]

Over, the team probably gets ~80 points if I had to guess.

 

[trostol]

83 points and i will be mad

 

[dats81]

89 points, with all the consequences of missing the playoffs but not selling off at the TDL and a so-so draft position

 

[saophim]

brace yourself for 72 max

 

[flyersnorth]

Under. I have them around 75.

 

[deadhead]

I have severe doubts that Fletcher is going to suddenly stop acquiring all his preferred player types because an employee who plans on retiring in a few years tells him to.

What's his preferred player type?

traded for/signed Hayes, Niskanen, Braun, Atkinson, TDA, Risto
drafted York, Attard, Andrae, Brink, Foerster, Tuomaala, Gauthier, Kaplan with his higher picks

minimum wage: Yandle, Brown, Thompson, Seeler.

 

[Beef Invictus]

What's his preferred player type?

traded for/signed Hayes, Niskanen, Braun, Atkinson, TDA, Risto
drafted York, Attard, Andrae, Brink, Foerster, Tuomaala, Gauthier, Kaplan with his higher picks

minimum wage: Yandle, Brown, Thompson, Seeler.

Bad players. Bad players are his type.

 

[Tripod]

Bad players. Bad players are his type.

Dead also ignored Fletch getting Thompson a 2nd time, Grant, Gus, Brassard, Stewart.

Hell, 2 of Fletcher's moves that could have looked good, he failed too. He traded for Talbot, then we didn't play him and didn't sign him. Also got 24 year old Hartman, who somehow became a 65 point guy 3 years later after leaving Philly. But we got Pitlick instead.

It's really a comedy of errors. For a GM to go from Ghost to Risto, and pay a 1st(#14), two 2nd, a 7th, and Hagg, to get there, is just astonishing. And this man still has a job.

But don't worry, Torts will save us. I am sure the 5th coach under Fletcher's watch will be the one.

 

[deadhead]

Dead also ignored Fletch getting Thompson a 2nd time, Grant, Gus, Brassard, Stewart.

Hell, 2 of Fletcher's moves that could have looked good, he failed too. He traded for Talbot, then we didn't play him and didn't sign him. Also got 24 year old Hartman, who somehow became a 65 point guy 3 years later after leaving Philly. But we got Pitlick instead.

It's really a comedy of errors. For a GM to go from Ghost to Risto, and pay a 1st(#14), two 2nd, a 7th, and Hagg, to get there, is just astonishing. And this man still has a job.

But don't worry, Torts will save us. I am sure the 5th coach under Fletcher's watch will be the one.

Those were all minimum wage moves. Which are meh moves since these sort of players can be easily buried in the AHL. Any contract $1M or less basically states the player is marginal for that reason - there's no commitment.

Conflating real transactions with minimum wage acquisitions is a rhetorical trick, but doesn't shed light on Fletcher's priorities.

Hartman was one of those things - Nashville gave up on him, he was going to be a FA and Dallas didn't try to resign him after trading Pitlick for him (more of a salary dump for them). He was below average defensively until he got to Minnesota, where he finally woke up, though his 2021-22 season is probably an anomaly, 15.7% shooting isn't sustainable for him.

I don't know if Torts will "save" us, but we'll have a much better read on the talent on this team after this season, I'm wary of judging players based off the previous two seasons.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

What's his preferred player type?

traded for/signed Hayes, Niskanen, Braun, Atkinson, TDA, Risto
drafted York, Attard, Andrae, Brink, Foerster, Tuomaala, Gauthier, Kaplan with his higher picks

minimum wage: Yandle, Brown, Thompson, Seeler.

The wrong player. That’s his player type. You can’t even argue this because you claim to say that that’s his biggest problem, targeting the wrong player.

 

[prototypical4thliner]

Those were all minimum wage moves. Which are meh moves since these sort of players can be easily buried in the AHL. Any contract $1M or less basically states the player is marginal for that reason - there's no commitment.

Conflating real transactions with minimum wage acquisitions is a rhetorical trick, but doesn't shed light on Fletcher's priorities.

Hartman was one of those things - Nashville gave up on him, he was going to be a FA and Dallas didn't try to resign him after trading Pitlick for him (more of a salary dump for them). He was below average defensively until he got to Minnesota, where he finally woke up, though his 2021-22 season is probably an anomaly, 15.7% shooting isn't sustainable for him.

I don't know if Torts will "save" us, but we'll have a much better read on the talent on this team after this season, I'm wary of judging players based off the previous two seasons.

Again, none of them are meh moves. Poor moves deserve to be maligned. Good moves deserve to be celebrated. Fletcher has made more poor moves than good.

Also, I’m voting for purgatory. It’ll be the over—83 points.

I expect a healthy couturier to provide two or three wins. Torts will get some buy in as well.

Not good enough for the playoffs, not bad enough for a true difference maker at the top of the draft board.

 

[PhillyWings]

Factoring in injuries and how long it takes the players to tune out the coach. Give me the under

 

[Beef Invictus]

Dead also ignored Fletch getting Thompson a 2nd time, Grant, Gus, Brassard, Stewart.

Hell, 2 of Fletcher's moves that could have looked good, he failed too. He traded for Talbot, then we didn't play him and didn't sign him. Also got 24 year old Hartman, who somehow became a 65 point guy 3 years later after leaving Philly. But we got Pitlick instead.

It's really a comedy of errors. For a GM to go from Ghost to Risto, and pay a 1st(#14), two 2nd, a 7th, and Hagg, to get there, is just astonishing. And this man still has a job.

But don't worry, Torts will save us. I am sure the 5th coach under Fletcher's watch will be the one.

And then he paid multiple draft picks to fill the "offensive dman" role when it was realized Risto can't.

Those were all minimum wage moves. Which are meh moves since these sort of players can be easily buried in the AHL. Any contract $1M or less basically states the player is marginal for that reason - there's no commitment.

Conflating real transactions with minimum wage acquisitions is a rhetorical trick, but doesn't shed light on Fletcher's priorities.

Hartman was one of those things - Nashville gave up on him, he was going to be a FA and Dallas didn't try to resign him after trading Pitlick for him (more of a salary dump for them). He was below average defensively until he got to Minnesota, where he finally woke up, though his 2021-22 season is probably an anomaly, 15.7% shooting isn't sustainable for him.

I don't know if Torts will "save" us, but we'll have a much better read on the talent on this team after this season, I'm wary of judging players based off the previous two seasons.

These "meh" moves have added up to create an awful team.

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

Under but not by much