Flyers Off-Season Discussion IV - NHL 17 Stanley Cup winners!

[Coffe]

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[tade]

There are still average top 6 players left... so if we make a move (Read/Streit) we can still add someone on short-term deal. But if not, I don't mind it, I like Streit on 3rd pairing, if he stays healthy, he can still surprise us, and could be very solid player for his last season with us.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

I have absolutely no idea what to do with this.

 

[Broad Street Elite]

Moving Streit seems ideal and could be possible now that the bonus was paid on July 1, but at this stage (other than Vesey who probably gets an identical offer from 30 teams) who are we adding that makes enough of a difference on our second line where we need to move Streit to do it.

 

[Broad Street Elite]

Next year was always the first year to get a real free agent IMO. Need Streit off the books and possibly Read. Probably a longshot on MacD

 

[tade]

Next year was always the first year to get a real free agent IMO. Need Streit off the books and possibly Read. Probably a longshot on MacD

We don't need to make big UFA signing after the next season, it's not needed for us. Konecny should (could) be top 6 player in 17/18.

 

[Cootsfanclub]

We don't need to make big UFA signing after the next season, it's not needed for us. Konecny should (could) be top 6 player in 17/18.

Tavares could be a good 2C though.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I don't think these moves today made our lineup any less attractive to try & woo Vesey. Not getting my hopes up but we still could easily fit him in our top 9 & give him PP time.

 

[GKJ]

Nothing was done today to make us any more attractive to Vesey. Nor should it have been.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Nothing was done today to make us any more attractive to Vesey. Nor should it have been.

I'm not suggesting that was idea but it still shook out that way.

 

[FadeToBlack]

What would Vesey want? Here, if he performs well, he'll get a chance to play with G and V... that's more than most teams can say, talent-wise. If he doesn't make the top line, he's still with Coots and Simmonds, in all likelihood. That's still solid. He'll definitely get at least PP2 time. Throw in a young up-and-coming core, he's got as good a chance to make himself a part of the core and get paid as anybody does. Not to mention the east coast travel schedule, and only a 5 hour drive to his hometown. Who's closer? BOS, NYR, NYI, MTL? That's it. Boston is not that great, NYR are solid, NYI just gave a 31 year old second/third liner 7 years and $35m or something, and MTL is a dumpster fire.

C'mon Vesey.

 

[GKJ]

Vesey's going to want more than he really should get being a UFA, based on bonuses. It would be nice to add him, but Hextall is under this platinum rule that players entering the NHL need to force him to make a decision on other NHL players and I just don't see Vesey as someone who will want to have to do that if other teams aren't going to make him.

 

[FadeToBlack]

Vesey's going to want more than he really should get being a UFA, based on bonuses. It would be nice to add him, but Hextall is under this platinum rule that players entering the NHL need to force him to make a decision on other NHL players and I just don't see Vesey as someone who will want to have to do that if other teams aren't going to make him.

Our cap situation should be fairly solid over the next three years, I don't see any problem with offering him something decent, just my two cents. He's a chance to get what should be a great young asset while giving up no resources... git er done.

 

[GKJ]

I haven't seen Kyle Brodziak show up anywhere. Wouldn't mind bringing him in, too.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I haven't seen Kyle Brodziak show up anywhere. Wouldn't mind bringing him in, too.

He re-upped in St. Louis earlier in the week.

 

[GKJ]

He re-upped in St. Louis earlier in the week.

Way to kill the mood, bro

 

[Larry44]

I have absolutely no idea what to do with this.

No one would take Streit or Reid so there was no cap room.

 

[Jack de la Hoya]

If we are talking about top-six forwards, which of those $6m players were really worth adding (at cost and term) though?

 

[Curufinwe]

Ladd, Eriksson and Nielsen got such long terms... I'd be worried about all of them.

 

[Larry44]

If we are talking about top-six forwards, which of those $6m players were really worth adding (at cost and term) though?

Boedker signed for 4 x $4MM, rather have him or Matt Martin at $2.5M x 4, than Weise and Gordon.

 

[FatTugboatFlahr]

Boedker signed for 4 x $4MM, rather have him or Matt Martin at $2.5M x 4, than Weise and Gordon.

That's dumb.

 

[Jack de la Hoya]

Boedker signed for 4 x $4MM, rather have him or Matt Martin at $2.5M x 4, than Weise and Gordon.

Not sure Boedker would have taken that deal here--and he's much better at RW than LW, so where is he playing in the top six?

As for Martin, why? He's clearly not a top-six forward. That's the conversation. (I don't think he's better than Weise either).

 

[Curufinwe]

Boedker went to a contender and his former coach.

Weise is a better player than Martin who's a 4th liner.

 

[GKJ]

Boedker is overrated. He's not good 5v5 for a top 6 forward.

Matt Martin was something like 369th among forwards in P/60. Those guys aren't even worth a million.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

There's still some defensemen left on the board so probably gonna need some of them to sign before Streit could potentially be moved.