Flyers' 2017-18 roster discussion, part 3

[Captain Dave Poulin]

He could get another GM job and there's not a spot for him with us, so I imagine it was just a polite answer to a question.

Numpty Reporter: "Ron, any interest in bringing Dean Lombardi on board?"
Hexy: "It's certainly something we would be interested in if he was interested in joining our project in some capacity."

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

cant fault him for Voynov. not his fault he ended up being a POS. He let him go when the **** hit the fan. I agree on Richards tho, his loyalty clouded his judgement. he made a mistake.

Not what I am talking about. It's about how he handled the situations afterwards. I'm talking about hypocrisy of being selective about off the ice issues when a player is good or not. He kept Voynov on the roster & even had him practicing which was against the rules. But he was quick to ditch Richards when he got in trouble. One guy was a good player & the other was a bad player with a bad contract despite one beating his wife & the other being caught with pain pills. It wasn't a good look for Lombardi.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Not what I am talking about. It's about how he handled the situations afterwards. I'm talking about hypocrisy of being selective about off the ice issues when a player is good or not. He kept Voynov on the roster & even had him practicing which was against the rules. But he was quick to ditch Richards when he got in trouble. One guy was a good player & the other was a bad player with a bad contract despite one beating his wife & the other being caught with pain pills. It wasn't a good look for Lombardi.

He strikes me as someone who is the textbook definition of "Loyal to a fault."
Savvy in a lot of ways, but very likely not ruthless enough when he needs to be.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

He strikes me as someone who is the textbook definition of "Loyal to a fault."
Savvy in a lot of ways, but very likely not ruthless enough when he needs to be.

He was pretty ruthless with Richards in the end. I don't think the guy ever ended up getting convicted of anything.

 

[Striiker]

the Kings didnt trade for Rinaldo.
I am not going to worry about it. Hextall is the GM. What role will he have anyway? I wont lose any sleep over it.

I'd take Rinaldo over Lecavalier

Hextall would still be the decision maker, I suspect Lombardi would merely be a sort of an advisor.

Hope not. Based on his actions, his advice would be worthless.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Loyalty to a fault.
gee I wonder where he learned that

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

I'd take Rinaldo over Lecavalier

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that is too far man. come on.

 

[Redpath]

Interesting with Gostisbehere unsigned. Not really worried about it but something to consider I suppose

 

[Don Nachbaur 26]

I think that was debunked by Bill Meltzer.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Bill...hier-Lindblom-Hart-Chychrun-and-More/45/84951

Thanks Man, never saw that article.

 

[Striiker]

that is too far man. come on.

At least Rinaldo can skate, hit, and fight. That's three more things than Lecavalier is able to do. He is 100% useless in every single aspect of hockey, every ounce of skill he once had left him.

Rinaldo is trash too, I don't want him anywhere near this team obviously. This is more a statement about how low my opinion of Lecavalier is than me thinking Rinaldo is a real hockey player.

 

[MacDonald4MVP]

Regarding second powerplay unit:
Couts played 118 minutes on powerplay and had 6 shots, Filppula had 8 in 142 minutes. I would be wary of having them both play on same unit.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

one day the Flyers will have 2 really good PP units and they will click at 28 percent.
then on days they go 0-5 folks will say the 2nd unit sucks and I would so so and so.
Dont think I have ever seen a time when the fans did not complain about the 2nd unit. or the PP in general
i am not saying the 2nd unit is good now. Just saying we will always ***** about the PP

 

[Hiesenberg]

Interesting with Gostisbehere unsigned. Not really worried about it but something to consider I suppose

Something has to be a little off here. Flyers have to be able to match this. Otherwise he could be signed right out from under them?

I get no compensation, but I can't see them being able to throw 50MM and be like "screw you"

The Flyers are protecting Ghost too, so again, something seems weird here, like they can sign him before we submit our protected list?

 

[PALE PWNR]

Interesting with Gostisbehere unsigned. Not really worried about it but something to consider I suppose

Flyers won't be leaving Ghost unprotected so that's a non-issue

 

[Curufinwe]

Interesting with Gostisbehere unsigned. Not really worried about it but something to consider I suppose

Hextall will be hunted down like a rabid dog if he doesn't protect Ghost.

 

[Redpath]

Flyers won't be leaving Ghost unprotected so that's a non-issue

Hextall will be hunted down like a rabid dog if he doesn't protect Ghost.

Yep, I misread that . Thought LeBrun was saying any unsigned RFA can be signed by Vegas compensation free. Nothing to see here.

 

[Striiker]

Interesting with Gostisbehere unsigned. Not really worried about it but something to consider I suppose

The chances of Gostisbehere being unprotected is exactly zero.

 

[Lindberg]

one day the Flyers will have 2 really good PP units and they will click at 28 percent.
then on days they go 0-5 folks will say the 2nd unit sucks and I would so so and so.
Dont think I have ever seen a time when the fans did not complain about the 2nd unit. or the PP in general
i am not saying the 2nd unit is good now. Just saying we will always ***** about the PP

Yeah because complaining about a 2nd unit that has played like trash is such a ridiculous thing to do. Give it a break man we get it.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Yeah because complaining about a 2nd unit that has played like trash is such a ridiculous thing to do. Give it a break man we get it.

been on this board for quite awhile. its the one thing that has been a constant/ that is all I am saying.

 

[Alex91]

Regarding second powerplay unit:
Couts played 118 minutes on powerplay and had 6 shots, Filppula had 8 in 142 minutes. I would be wary of having them both play on same unit.

Couts role has changed from a side wall guy to net front presence/cycler, which suits his skillset. He looked good there esp when we upgraded the 2nd unit with flipp and weal. However with Lindblom and 2OV joining the team, Couts may be off 2nd unit.

Simmonds
Giroux-Schenn-Voracek
Ghost

2 unit:
Lindblom
2OV-TK-Flipp
Provy

Hagg would prob be the alternative to Provy if we limit Provy min. If Weal if resigned, we should prob be the fill in guy

I can see TK and Lindblom being the net presence guys and switching high and low. Lindblom is very good at tipping pucks and has good hands in close. That opens Couts for being first centre off after the PP, which will be against the teams best line. To many times last year PEB-VDV gave up momentum after a solid PP.

Once Sanheim is on the team, I'd love to take Voracek off the first unit and give that role to Ghost, with Provy being QB. Then go Lindblom, 2OV-TK-Voracek with Sanheim as QB for the 2nd unit

 

[Rebels57]

Yeah because complaining about a 2nd unit that has played like trash is such a ridiculous thing to do. Give it a break man we get it.

Thats his thing. Complaining about our complaints lol.

 

[Lindberg]

been on this board for quite awhile. its the one thing that has been a constant/ that is all I am saying.

The 2nd unit hasn't looked good for a while. I can't remember what it looked like when Pronger and Timonen were still here but it would probably have to go back to then for a good #2 unit. Regardless if they were scoring goals or not their overall play the past few years has just been garbage.

I don't get your shtick. This team didn't make the playoffs two years ago, barely made it last year, and missed it this year. There is a lot to gripe about when it comes to Hakstol, this teams makeup, and some of the players usage. I don't accept mediocrity as success and neither should any fan of this team.

If this team was like the blackhawks and won the cup 3 times in the past 7-8 years I would get it but this team sucks.

 

[Curufinwe]

The 2nd unit was actually pretty good in 15-16, and the new coach should have more talent to work with than the Flyers did that season.

http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/rat...50&teamid=22&type=goals&sort=F60&sortdir=DESC

 

[FLYguy3911]

Couts role has changed from a side wall guy to net front presence/cycler, which suits his skillset. He looked good there esp when we upgraded the 2nd unit with flipp and weal. However with Lindblom and 2OV joining the team, Couts may be off 2nd unit.

Simmonds
Giroux-Schenn-Voracek
Ghost

2 unit:
Lindblom
2OV-TK-Flipp
Provy

Hagg would prob be the alternative to Provy if we limit Provy min. If Weal if resigned, we should prob be the fill in guy

I can see TK and Lindblom being the net presence guys and switching high and low. Lindblom is very good at tipping pucks and has good hands in close. That opens Couts for being first centre off after the PP, which will be against the teams best line. To many times last year PEB-VDV gave up momentum after a solid PP.

Once Sanheim is on the team, I'd love to take Voracek off the first unit and give that role to Ghost, with Provy being QB. Then go Lindblom, 2OV-TK-Voracek with Sanheim as QB for the 2nd unit

Hagg couldn't even get on the Phantoms powerplay. He is not an option.

 

[Alex91]

Hagg couldn't even get on the Phantoms powerplay. He is not an option.

So who is next guy up? Amac, Gudas or Morin