Value of: Florida Panthers 2023 First round pick (28th - 32nd overall) look

[Hodge]

Remember when Habs fans thought this pick was going to get them Bedard?

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Chiarot trade still a big win for the Habs but this has to sting. Habs fans bragging so much about two lottery picks. One being Bedard. Yeah. No.

Watching the Leafs lose, takes the sting out of it. But this was a huge win for the Habs regardless. It was Fla 1st ++ for Chiarot.

Remember when Habs fans thought this pick was going to get them Bedard?

NO one ever thought that. But nice try gaslighting the conversation.....

 

[Hodge]

Watching the Leafs lose, takes the sting out of it. But this was a huge win for the Habs regardless. It was Fla 1st ++ for Chiarot.


NO one ever thought that. But nice try gaslighting the conversation.....

It's two picks that have a ~25% chance and ~15% chance respectively (being very generous here) of becoming long term NHL players. Huge win.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

It's two picks that have a ~25% chance and ~15% chance respectively (being very generous here) of becoming long term NHL players. Huge win.

For Chiarot.... You forgot that part of it. 1st round picks matter. All lives matter.

There's no glossing over how much of a win this was for Montreal.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Watching the Leafs lose, takes the sting out of it. But this was a huge win for the Habs regardless. It was Fla 1st ++ for Chiarot.


NO one ever thought that. But nice try gaslighting the conversation.....

Don't make me do homework on a Saturday

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Don't make me do homework on a Saturday

Go do it and look for where Fla 1st is a guaranteed 1st overall. No one said that. Even florida missing the playoffs this year would not have resulted in a 1st had Fla won the lottery. It would have been 4th/5th.

You are gaslighting because you are jealous Hughes made a great trade? Just admit it was a great trade and move on.

 

[Hodge]

For Chiarot.... You forgot that part of it. 1st round picks matter. All lives matter.

There's no glossing over how much of a win this was for Montreal.

Pretty standard return for a coveted rental defenseman. You might think Chiarot sucks but the trade market didn't at the time. Getting a top 15 pick would have indeed been a huge win for the Habs rebuild but instead they end up with a glorified 2nd rounder. Too bad.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Pretty standard return for a coveted rental defenseman. You might think Chiarot sucks but the trade market didn't at the time. Getting a top 15 pick would have indeed been a huge win for the Habs rebuild but instead they end up with a glorified 2nd rounder. Too bad.

Except its a 1st rounder ++ for Chiarot. That's a huge win. Say it with me sparky... The Habs won that trade.

I get it pains you to say it....

Habs also have been pretty good with 2nd round picks btw. Lane Hutson, Owen Beck, Kidney.... Lehkonen was a 2nd round pick.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Go do it and look for where Fla 1st is a guaranteed 1st overall. No one said that. Even florida missing the playoffs this year would not have resulted in a 1st had Fla won the lottery. It would have been 4th/5th.

You are gaslighting because you are jealous Hughes made a great trade? Just admit it was a great trade and move on.

You even have your own little prayer thread on the Habs board and everything.

Jealous of what, we gifted yout team an early 2nd round pick and still made the final 4, so we are moving on

 

[dirtydanglez]

Watching the Leafs lose, takes the sting out of it. But this was a huge win for the Habs regardless. It was Fla 1st ++ for Chiarot.


NO one ever thought that. But nice try gaslighting the conversation.....

the ++ are 2 long shot prospects. this likely ends up a very late 1st for chiarot. habs now have to do something with that 1st.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

You even have your own little prayer thread on the Habs board and everything.

Jealous of what, we gifted you a an early 2nd round pick and still made the final 4 so we are moving on

Alternative facts? You gifted us a late 1st round pick and then some. For a guy who did diddly for you last year.

This season, getting rid of Chiarot helped you to the conference final!

the ++ are 2 long shot prospects. this likely ends up a very late 1st for chiarot. habs now have to do something with that 1st.

For Chiarot! LOL

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Alternative facts? You gifted us a late 1st round pick and then some. For a guy who did diddly for you last year.

This season, getting rid of Chiarot helped you to the conference final!


For Chiarot! LOL

Oh no, hopefully those lottery tickets turn into something in 5 years...

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Oh no, hopefully those lottery tickets turn into something in 5 years...

That's the hope! You are good at this.

 

[Hodge]

Except its a 1st rounder ++ for Chiarot. That's a huge win. Say it with me sparky... The Habs won that trade.

I get it pains you to say it....

Habs also have been pretty good with 2nd round picks btw. Lane Hutson, Owen Beck, Kidney.... Lehkonen was a 2nd round pick.

Damn that's a really impressive track record. How many NHL games have Hutson, Beck and Kidney played? Sounds like a lot.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Damn that's a really impressive track record. How many NHL games have Hutson, Beck and Kidney played? Sounds like a lot.

They will in the future. Like Lehkonen and Romanov!


A lot more than what Chiarot has left in the tank....

Hughes killed it!

 

[Hodge]

They will in the future. Like Lehkonen and Romanov!

Awesome! Habs are well on their way to building another dynasty.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Awesome! Habs are well on their way to building another dynasty.

I wouldn't say dynasty. That's hyperbole. But well on their way to rebuilding.

Pens will have to do that sometime very soon if not now.... Thanks for Matheson by the way. Another Hughes win.

 

[vipera1960]

Watching the Leafs lose, takes the sting out of it. But this was a huge win for the Habs regardless. It was Fla 1st ++ for Chiarot.


NO one ever thought that. But nice try gaslighting the conversation.....

Dude there was a whole thread about how the combined odds of this pick and Mtl’s was greater than Columbus’.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Dude there was a whole thread about how the combined odds of this pick and Mtl’s was greater than Columbus’.

No one ever thought that this pick would result in a 1st overall. In fact, it was impossible even if Fla missed the playoffs at 15 and won the lottery. That pick would move up 11 spots.

Why is this even a debate???

Just be happy for the Habs for getting a 1st round pick ++ for Chiarot. Can't people be happy for the Habs???

 

[vipera1960]

No one ever thought that this pick would result in a 1st overall. In fact, it was impossible even if Fla missed the playoffs at 15 and won the lottery. That pick would move up 11 spots.

Why is this even a debate???

Just be happy for the Habs for getting a 1st round pick ++ for Chiarot. Can't people be happy for the Habs???

You are wrong

Montreal now has the 4th best odds for Bedard...

 

[Junohockeyfan]

You are wrong

Montreal now has the 4th best odds for Bedard...

That's wrong. If Florida at 15 won the lottery, the pick would have moved up 11 spots. Montreal had the 5th best odds for Bedard and the 4th best odds of winning the lottery. Winning the lottery in the case of Florida does not equal Bedard.

 

[hawksrule]

Watching the Leafs lose, takes the sting out of it. But this was a huge win for the Habs regardless. It was Fla 1st ++ for Chiarot.


NO one ever thought that. But nice try gaslighting the conversation.....

Not true. There was a long, gloating thread about how the two picks together gave Montreal a good chance for 1oa.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Not true. There was a long, gloating thread about how the two picks together gave Montreal the best chances for 1oa.

But that's factually incorrect. The Fla odds of winning the lottery at #15 doesn't give the Habs the 1OA.

I mean you guys understand that right???

 

[hawksrule]

But that's factually incorrect. The Fla odds of winning the lottery at #15 doesn't give the Habs the 1OA.

I mean you guys understand that right???

Florida was in the 9th spot at the time. No need to be condescending, especially when you were already shown to be wrong.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Florida was in the 9th spot at the time. No need to be condescending, especially when you were already shown to be wrong.

Jesus, you are talking 3 months ago? LOL

When Chiarot was traded, everyone thought the 1st would be a late pick as the Panthers were a very strong team and looked to be a perennial contender at that time. What happened afterwards really hasn't changed. How the Panthers got to the conference final was entertaining to say the least.