Confirmed with Link: Flames Place Stone On Waivers For Buyout

[super6646]

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[super6646]

Flames should have roughly 7 million in cap space. If the flames send czarnik and gillies down, the flames can open up an additional 1.8 million dollars as well. I’d assume kylington likely starts in the AHL with Davidson as a #7 fill in ( kind of like prout).

 

[Corpus X]

I can't believe the Flames couldn't even trade him for a peanut. They must be allergic.

 

[Baxterman]

That sucks he is a NHL level defenseman I am surprised we couldn’t have moved him for a late round pick or slightly cheaper contract.

I guess that means Brodie is staying since we don’t gave any extra NHL level RHD in the organization.

Hope Stone signs on somewhere and does well he is a good player.

 

[Calculon]

It's a sign of the times. Ten years ago a player like Stone would still have been coveted, even with the injury history and hefty cap hit. Now, every team has someone who can do the job for cheaper.

Although, if ownership was willing to retain salary, maybe Treliving could have done something.

Oh and they still need to trade Frolik or someone else. A shade under 8M isn't near enough cap space to sign both Tkachuk and Mangiapane while also having some breathing room for flexibility.

 

[InfinityIggy]

I can't believe the Flames couldn't even trade him for a peanut. They must be allergic.

1.116M caphit for the buyout both this year and next. Have to think if we'd retained that amount we could've found a taker. Ownership won't do retention though because they are bad at math.

 

[InfinityIggy]

It's a sign of the times. Ten years ago a player like Stone would still have been coveted, even with the injury history and hefty cap hit. Now, every team has someone who can do the job for cheaper.

Although, if ownership was willing to retain salary, maybe Treliving could have done something.

Oh and they still need to trade Frolik or someone else. A shade under 8M isn't near enough cap space to sign both Tkachuk and Mangiapane while also having some breathing room for flexibility.

Unless of course we are going to make the tragic mistake of bridging Tkachuk for 2 years or something.

 

[viper0220]

I think it is one of two things, 1.) They have a contract in place for Tkachuk and needed the cap space or 2.) They have a trade lined up and needed the cap space. There are about two months left, I think some team would have seen his off season training and taken a chance on him.

 

[Baxterman]

I think it is one of two things, 1.) They have a contract in place for Tkachuk and needed the cap space or 2.) They have a trade lined up and needed the cap space. There are about two months left, I think some team would have seen his off season training and taken a chance on him.

I think it because they had 3 days to make the buyout or risk having cap hit for the year.

I would love to think they hadn’t trade ready to fill the massive hole we have on our second line but I think we are going to see the 3m live rolled out again and another year of Tkachuk wasted as a checker.

 

[InfinityIggy]

I think it is one of two things, 1.) They have a contract in place for Tkachuk and needed the cap space or 2.) They have a trade lined up and needed the cap space. There are about two months left, I think some team would have seen his off season training and taken a chance on him.

It would be nice if it was either of those, but as mentioned the buyout window is only open for 3 days. So it's likely Tre just decided he couldn't risk holding onto Stone.

 

[viper0220]

It would be nice if it was either of those, but as mentioned the buyout window is only open for 3 days. So it's likely Tre just decided he couldn't risk holding onto Stone.

Does the buyout window not happen before the seasons starts?

 

[InfinityIggy]

Does the buyout window not happen before the seasons starts?

It's complicated: https://flamesnation.ca/2019/08/01/the-second-buyout-window-is-now-open/

 

[Mobiandi]

I am surprised we couldn't do something like Stone @50% for future considerations.

He will probably get a PTO but I feel like this might spell the end of his NHL career unfortunately

 

[RedHot]

I really hope Brad is learning some valuable lessons about the risks of singing mid levels UFAs.

You can argue that the only ones that haven't blown up in his face are Frolik, and maybe Smith (lol)

 

[Baxterman]

Smith was a trade.

And that trade turned out awful for us.

 

[crackdown44]

I really hope Brad is learning some valuable lessons about the risks of singing mid levels UFAs.

You can argue that the only ones that haven't blown up in his face are Frolik, and maybe Smith (lol)

Hopefully he’ll at least be weary of timing from now on. You have to look at when your big ticket RFAs/UFAs are expiring and know when you’re going to need money. Stone on a two year deal would have been fine

 

[Mobiandi]

Kinda weird how he had a 15 team NTC too

 

[DFF]

I really hope Brad is learning some valuable lessons about the risks of singing mid levels UFAs.

You can argue that the only ones that haven't blown up in his face are Frolik, and maybe Smith (lol)

It's already on paper, when they fired BT, his FA signings is on top of the list of reasons

Not sure what he saw in stone...we wasted picks and cap on this guy...must have some dirty pictures

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Kinda thinking Yelesin will be on this team as the 4th RD.

He was a KHL all-star and was apparently the most physical player in their league.

 

[super6646]

Last season was the hurriflames... this the off-season of the oilerflames?

 

[Baxterman]

I guess as a guy to sit in the PB it wouldn’t be terrible but if he played any more than 5 games it would be a big concern.

With our zero options at RHD outside of the 3 guys we already have we need to sign someone, would hope we could do better than Petrovic though.

Edit: and s big no thank you to Yeltsin being anything more than a bottom pairing AHL scrub. Do not want to see him anywhere close to the NHL team.

 

[Mobiandi]

Edit: and s big no thank you to Yeltsin being anything more than a bottom pairing AHL scrub. Do not want to see him anywhere close to the NHL team.

Do you follow the KHL religiously or something? I doubt that any Flames fan knows anything about him

 

[InfinityIggy]

I am surprised we couldn't do something like Stone @50% for future considerations.

He will probably get a PTO but I feel like this might spell the end of his NHL career unfortunately

I think he will get signed somewhere actually, hes healthy now and still young enough to be an effective bottom guy. No way we would've entertained buying him out if our young guys hadn't all stepped into NHL roles at once.

 

[super6646]

Do you follow the KHL religiously or something? I doubt that any Flames fan knows anything about him

He did at he heard some “bad stuff” about that Russian goalie he signed. I’m a little skepticism tbh.

 

[InfinityIggy]

I guess as a guy to sit in the PB it wouldn’t be terrible but if he played any more than 5 games it would be a big concern.

With our zero options at RHD outside of the 3 guys we already have we need to sign someone, would hope we could do better than Petrovic though.

Edit: and s big no thank you to Yeltsin being anything more than a bottom pairing AHL scrub. Do not want to see him anywhere close to the NHL team.

Yelesin, was actually a pretty solid KHL player, one of the better D in that league and only 23 to boot. I don't want him on the NHL roster but I would wager he will be a pretty effective top 4 option on our AHL squad. Might even see him up on the big team at some point if we decide we need an extra physical body in the lineup.