Proposal: Flames/Leafs

[Alex12]

Markstrom @50%
Tanev @50%

for

Matthew Knies
2024 1st Round Pick
Samsonov (salary purposes)

Allows Toronto to potentially go "All in" this year by shoring up their Defence and Goaltending. Allows Calgary to get younger with a good prospect and a 1st round pick which will ultimately end up being in the 20's.

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[crackdown44]

Tanev can probably fetch a late first on his own and Knies + Samsonov doesn’t move the needle for me for Markstrom with 50% retention

No from this flames fan

 

[HitterD]

Sold, from a Flames perspective, though I hesitate to retain on Markstrom for 2.5 years

That said, I don’t think you are going to get much Leafs fan support for any trade involving Knies, and I don’t blame them

 

[johnnystormcgy]

Based on Flames history and that offer, I doubt management would retain dollars especially for 2.5 seasons on Markstrom.

All reports thus far are Flames have turned down better deals in order to not retain money.

Edit: And if the rumours are true, Markstrom has already exercised his NMC this year and they wont approach unless the offer is significantly in the Flames favour.

 

[AvroArrow]

I love Tanev but he's what gonna be 35 ? Knies is on a cheap deal, young forward that's playing in our top 6 with lots of promise. Pass.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

Leafs should not be doing any deal like this. Knies only moves for a piece that can be a part of our core, not 2 players near the end of their career

 

[ole ole]

Based on Flames history and that offer, I doubt management would retain dollars especially for 2.5 seasons on Markstrom.

All reports thus far are Flames have turned down better deals in order to not retain money.

Nothing wrong with that train of thought.

 

[BLONG7]

Leafs have 35K in space..................just throwing it out there....can't imagine they are very active on the trade front?

 

[Alex12]

I love Tanev but he's what gonna be 35 ? Knies is on a cheap deal, young forward that's playing in our top 6 with lots of promise. Pass.

Tanev is 33. I think by the time Knies is in his prime Toronto will be looking at rebuilding rather than competing for a Cup. Tanev assists with their contention for a cup for the next 2-3 years.

 

[TMLife17]

Absolutely no chance. No. No. No.

 

[pth2]

I just can't see Knies as available. (though I totally understand wanting him).

 

[TMLife17]

Tanev is 33. I think by the time Knies is in his prime Toronto will be looking at rebuilding rather than competing for a Cup. Tanev assists with their contention for a cup for the next 2-3 years.

Matthews is 26 all season. We’re not rebuilding for like a decade. Knies is 5 years younger than him..

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Needs more Jeremy Bracco.

 

[Alex12]

Matthews is 26 all season. We’re not rebuilding for like a decade. Knies is 5 years younger than him..

Matthews will be 30 when Knies is 25... and the rest of the core will be well into their 30's. Very hard to contend with that group of players at that age.

I mean im just suggesting a proposal that would benefit both teams, one in the present/near future and the other in the long term.

 

[ole ole]

I love Tanev but he's what gonna be 35 ? Knies is on a cheap deal, young forward that's playing in our top 6 with lots of promise. Pass.

Just curious on your thought. What does adding Tanev and Markstrom do for the leafs this season? How much of a difference would these 2 players make in a cup run ? That's the question i would need being answered .

 

[mattyboy]

Leafs won’t make such a big move this year. They’re hesitant to make a big move.
Also, that deal would be horrendous for Calgary.

 

[TMLife17]

Matthews will be 30 when Knies is 25... and the rest of the core will be well into their 30's. Very hard to contend with that group of players at that age.

I mean im just suggesting a proposal that would benefit both teams, one in the present/near future and the other in the long term.

You’re just way off base sorry. We’re not paying our best young player and a first for a goalie and another rental for this season only. You are asking for Knies and a first for one year of a 36 year old Markstrom in 2025-26. We aren’t winning the cup this year or next with 11M wasted cap on JT.

It’s an easy easy pass.

 

[Zirakzigil]

Flames could get more in separate deals.

 

[Recipe Unlimited]

Can we please stop going all-in every year.

Sometimes you just have to take a step back and realize this year isn't your year.

Maybe the lack of pressure will help the team win, lol

 

[Golden_Jet]

Flames can get a better deal, especially with a double retainment

 

[Dion TheFluff]

pass from this Leafs fan. zero interest in moving a 1st for a rental this year.

 

[Deadly Dogma]

I say no as a Leafs fan, I think we are OK goaltending wise. Sammy is figuring it out and Woll will be back soon.
Also Tanev is causing a bidding war and I say stay out, go after Lybushkin and if a decent LW/C is available for a fair price go for it

 

[AvroArrow]

Tanev is 33. I think by the time Knies is in his prime Toronto will be looking at rebuilding rather than competing for a Cup. Tanev assists with their contention for a cup for the next 2-3 years.

I mean I'd love Tanev on our team right now, but if the price is Knies it's an easy pass. I'll take the next decade-ish of Knies vs a year of Tanev. Just way too pricey.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Zero chance Flames ownership will let us retain on Markstrom.

 

[DKH]

Markstrom @50%
Tanev @50%

for

Matthew Knies
2024 1st Round Pick
Samsonov (salary purposes)

Allows Toronto to potentially go "All in" this year by shoring up their Defence and Goaltending. Allows Calgary to get younger with a good prospect and a 1st round pick which will ultimately end up being in the 20's.

Bruins are to good a 200 foot team

Lesfs should just wait till Pastrnak, McAvoy, and Swayman retire