First Round - Team Grades

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Just wanted to get a few thoughts down after the first round, and figured a good way to do that would be to recap things in a team grade format. Nothing wildly insightful, but a good way to round things up. Here goes:

A+
NYI: It's been a good few days for Islanders fans. A Tavares re-signing would be the icing on the cake, but if he goes elsewhere they've done well to at least lessen the blow a little bit. Getting both Wahlstrom and Dobson is huge, and I don't think they could've done much better.

A
Buffalo: Obviously Dahlin is an A+ kind of player, but seeing as they won the lottery and didn't really have a tough choice to make, I'll keep them at an A.

Carolina: Same as above. Glad to see them not try and get too fancy with this, just take the best guy available and insert him right into your lineup next year.

Detroit: I think in 5 years' time, Zadina is going to be a step ahead of both Tkachuk and Hayton as an NHL player. At 6 he is incredible value, and I really like Veleno at 30 as well. They might not have done anything to improve their D-pool, but can still nab a guy like Wilde tomorrow. Great first round.

Vancouver: As a Flames' fan and a huge fan of Hughes, I hate seeing him go to Vancouver, but it's a very solid pick at 7. He'll be in their lineup next year or year after at the latest.

NYR: I think it's hard to do to poorly with 3 first rounders, and I really like the Miller and Lundkvist picks. I also really like the Kravtsov pick, but might've personally gone with Dobson over him. Regardless, they just keep on improving their prospect pool.

A-
New Jersey: I expected them to pick a defenseman, but did not expect Smith to still be around at 17. Great value and the clear best defenseman left on the board at that point.

San Jose: This grade is mostly for having the gall to stick to your gut. If Merkley can figure out his problems, he's great value at 21. It's obviously a big if, but I like to see teams take risks.

St. Louis: I had Bokk in the top 20, as I'm sure a few teams did. I like seeing St. Louis willing to move an asset to get their guy, and I'm excited to see Bokk's progression next year.

Florida: Nothing crazy here, but I like Denisenko and think he's great value at 15. He should fit in really well with Florida's offense in a year or two.

B+
Philadelphia: Really like the Farabee pick, less excited about the O'Brien one. However, when you have 2 first rounders you can afford to have one be focused on a guy that might need a bit of time before becoming an impact player, and it's hard to really get a read on O'Brien until seeing him face better competition.

Colorado: I might've gone for a bit more potential here in Bokk, but I do really like Kaut as well.

LA: Kupari is a nice pick here, and he's a guy I could see inside the top 10 in a re-draft a few years down the line if he can put it all together.

Minnesota: I don't know much about Johansson, and didn't have him in my top 50. However, I give them a B+ because again, they're clearly sticking to their guns and going after their guy. The general consensus seemed to be that there wasn't a whole lot of difference between picks 20-40ish, so this is one of those picks that we'll need to wait and see before judging too much (although honestly this could be said about all the picks outside of the top 2)

Toronto: I had them taking Sandin at 25, and when you can trade down and grab another pick and still get your guy, it's always good value.

Washington: I had Alexeyev a bit higher, and am glad he stayed in the first round. Seems like a good kid, and I think he has a little bit more offensive potential than he has shown so far. Excited to see what he can do in a full season next year in Red Deer.

Edmonton: I think 10 is right around the perfect spot for Bouchard. He should complement McDavid quite well, and it'll be interesting to see if he steps into the lineup right away.

B
Chicago: This grade reflects my own personal opinion about Boqvist. I've never been quite as high as him as some others, and would've taken Dobson over him for sure. However, he easily has the potential to be the best defender behind Dahlin, and certainly isn't a bad pick at 8. I also really like Beaudin, although I did have him just outside the first round.

Montreal: I don't think Kotkaniemi is too much of a reach here, and they got their C. I would've just stuck with Zadina, but I think Kotkaniemi is one of the few players who may have just as good of an NHL career as him. Good on Bergevin for being willing to take a risk right now.

Anaheim: I'm not super high on Lundestrom, but only because I don't see his ceiling as all that enticing. The Ducks are one of the best teams in the league at scouting, and so I trust there is more to his game than I see.

B-
Columbus: I'm not all that high on Foudy either, and don't think he's great value at 18, but again it's such a wide open draft and hard to judge at this point.

Ottawa: Some will probably give them a lower grade, and again I would've just taken Zadina if I were them. However, I think Tkachuk gets an unfair wrap on these boards, and he'll bring an element of the game to their team that they don't have. I like the pick, just not over Zadina. Again, common theme here, I like being willing to trade down to get another pick, and still getting a guy you value. Bernard-Docker is like O'Brien in that his potential is high, but it's hard to get a read on until he faces better competition. His career at UND will be a great indication of the kind of player he'll become.

C+
Dallas: Dellandrea is another guy I'm not quite as high on as some, and I think there were a few better options for Dallas here. However, he seems like a really good kid, and could have a huge year in the OHL next year. Will be keeping an eye on him for sure.

C
Arizona: I'm a big believer in Chayka, and I think this is the first thing he's done in his tenure that I'm not on board with. I admittedly had Hayton at 20, but I do see his appeal. However, I don't think he's close to being a top 5 guy, once again especially not when Zadina is right there. Or Hughes for that matter. Puzzling choice for me.
 
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NYI had a 1st round for the ages. Had Dobson 3rd on my list and Wahlstrom 7th. They got two elite talents outside of the top 10. Need a better grade than A+.

On the other hand, I didn't like the Hawks 1st at all. Boqvist and Beaudin went higher than I would have taken them, and selecting two OFD definitely didn't fill a need with Jokiharju, Mitchell, Forsling, etc... already in the pipeline.
 

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A+ is Islanders of course, can't believe Edmonton took Bouchard over Dobson. Big fan of Chicago's draft too, Boqvist was a top 3 talent imo
 
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How the heck do you do team grades just hours after the draft?

"Well, according to the rankings and mock drafts on HFBoards, this guy wasn't supposed to go this high. Fail"

"This guy was supposed to go top 10 but he fell to us in the teen's. That's an A"
Or maybe we've watched a ton of these guys play this year and have them ranked for ourselves and can identify when a team drafts a guy 5 or 6 spots after we had him while simultaneously filling team needs
 

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How the heck do you do team grades just hours after the draft?

"Well, according to the rankings and mock drafts on HFBoards, this guy wasn't supposed to go this high. Fail"

"This guy was supposed to go top 10 but he fell to us in the teen's. That's an A"

Sure, but if you take this perspective then really the draft doesn't warrant much discussion at all until 3-5 years down the line. It's just a good way to take stock of how things played out in the first, and helps me get my thoughts in order. Figured it would generate some discussion as well, not meant to be too serious.
 

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A+ is Islanders of course, can't believe Edmonton took Bouchard over Dobson. Big fan of Chicago's draft too, Boqvist was a top 3 talent imo

Sure if your going off the hope that both reach there ceilings, Dobson was the better pick. But more likely Dobson ends up as 3-4 2 way d, which they already have in Klefbom and Nurse, and the defensive side of Larsson. They’ve needed a PP QB since souray and pronger, so in that reason it was a better pick for them
 

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I liked just about every pick for every team. The one I'd say I disliked the most was Tkachuk to Ottawa because I just don't think not only is he not a good fit there, but I doubt he signs with them. He'll probably get traded by the team and sign elsewhere.
 

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Or maybe we've watched a ton of these guys play this year and have them ranked for ourselves and can identify when a team drafts a guy 5 or 6 spots after we had him while simultaneously filling team needs

More than a group of people who do it full-time professionally?
 
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I liked just about every pick for every team. The one I'd say I disliked the most was Tkachuk to Ottawa because I just don't think not only is he not a good fit there, but I doubt he signs with them. He'll probably get traded by the team and sign elsewhere.

The Tkachuk pick surprised me only because I think his production will be close to Matt's, which is 3rd best on the Flames, and they are still a team needing offence.

So, I don't see which other prospects the Sens have now up front, in White, Brown, Formention, etc. who are going to score like Monahan and Gaudreau who are ahead of Matt. I didn't think the Sens had enough skill in the organization to pass up on Zadina.

Tkachuk will be a good quality NHLer. But, I don't see the Sens having the skill up front to afford taking Brady's intangibles over a goal scorer.

As for who had a great draft, I can't believe how things fell for the Isles today.

To have Hayton, Boqvist, and Kvetsev go in the top 10, was insane for them. I would have pegged NYI to get 2 of Ty Smith, Jeff Farabee, or Barrett Hayton with their picks. Not Wahlstrom and Dobson.

If you had asked me whether Vancouver should deal #7 and another pick to NYI for #11 and #12, I would have said no way. But, had the Isles coveted Hughes the same way as Vancouver I wouldn't think that the Canucks could have gotten what was sitting at 11/12 for the Isles. No one could.

But, that's how scouting works. Each team will rate certain qualities ahead of others.
 

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How the heck do you do team grades just hours after the draft?

"Well, according to the rankings and mock drafts on HFBoards, this guy wasn't supposed to go this high. Fail"

"This guy was supposed to go top 10 but he fell to us in the teen's. That's an A"
This is HFBoards. We will probably have a redraft thread going for this draft before the first game of next season starts.
 

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Islanders for sure an A+. I would go much lower on the Wild - maybe a C- or even D. And higher with Philly - O'Brien comes from prep school, but he's going to turn into a real pro in 2-3 years.
 
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My immediate impressions:

Buffalo won the draft by drafting the best player.

Vancouver, Detroit, NYI, San Jose and St Louis got maximum value out of their picks.

Arizona, Washington, Ottawa, Minnesota, Philadelphia and Dallas left too much talent on the table, for different reasons, and would have disappointed me as a fan.
 
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yup..dare say Hayton at 5 is just another reason why that team is where it is.
And Foudy at 18 ?! Hmmm...He can fly and is athletic but I don’t see how the rest of his game in any way translates to a top 6F at the next level.
 

BigHitter67

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Dont agree on foudy
he was lights out on everyone at combine

Lol...To be expected given his genetic pedigree. Problem is...it’s a high skilled game played on ice with skates and hockey sticks.
Off ice combines are most relevant to the NFL draft. ie..if you test lights-out there is a very high probability that it translates nicely to the gridiron.
 
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He reminds me of Rico Fata.

Absolute Athletic Freakazoid!!
Rico Fata Does Not = Liam Foudy!

Foudy is not just a speed merchant.
Think Dylan Larkin meets Mike Gartner.
He's an excellent puck-handler and play-maker.
Foudy has a very high ceiling as an NHL player in the future.
If Columbus did not take him he would've been drafted between 20-22.
A boat load of NHL Scouts are very high on Foudy and thus Columbus took him @ 18.

 

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