First Canadian team to win Stanleys Cup?

[libertarian]

I know it looks bleak right now but a lot can happen within a decade and I think the Canadiens will return to becoming a really good team. Of course I have no rational reason to believes this other than hockey team's strengths are very fluctual.

I still remember the Bolts being the laughing stock of the league and Colorado and Detroit being absolute monster teams.

By the time the Habs are competitive again the Jets and Leafs will be fighting for their 3rd or 4th cup.

 

[Belhammer16]

Congrats. Leafs U22 players are still better than Winnipeg's U22 players
also not sure what your trouba comment means, since Rielly is better than him

Zero factual evidence to this

 

[SotasicA]

None of the Canadian teams will win with this generation of players.

Who knows what will happen after 25 years though. One of them might have built a powerhouse team from players yet unborn.

 

[MR4]

Zero factual evidence to this

That Rielly > Trouba? He's a #1D (Not Doughty/Karlsson tier obviously) putting up the best powerplay production on a per minute basis in 10 years by a dman.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

None of the Canadian teams will win with this generation of players.

Who knows what will happen after 25 years though. One of them might have built a powerhouse team from players yet unborn.

Toronto? Winnipeg?

 

[Blue Shakehead]

Zero factual evidence to this

You don't actually need facts when you're a Leafs fan.

66 goals by U22 players is actually > 105 goals by U22 players.
97 points in a joke division with 3rd healthiest team in league > 102 points in toughest division with 3rd most injuries
PP points/minute is the determining factor for who the best defenseman is, which is how Marc-Andre Bergeron won all those Norris trophies.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

It's down to the Leafs and Jets, the Oilers would be there but then they started doing stupid things like trading the Barzal pick to the NYI, trading Eberle to the NYI and trading Hall to the Devils for a #3 D man.

had they not done those stupid things they'd be a contender today, but they did and are now back at the bottom

 

[SotasicA]

Toronto? Winnipeg?

They have a lot of competition. Sure, there will be a window and they'll get to roll the dice a couple of times, but I still think it's more likely neither wins.

 

[Daisy Ridley]

Damn, beat me to it.

None of the current Canadian teams are close.

How are the Jets "not close"?

 

[Holymakinaw]

How are the Jets "not close"?

Because they're too young and inexperienced, like the Leafs. Neither team will have a LEGIT shot at it for a few more years, I bet.

 

[Baywulf]

You don't actually need facts when you're a Leafs fan.

66 goals by U22 players is actually > 105 goals by U22 players.
97 points in a joke division with 3rd healthiest team in league > 102 points in toughest division with 3rd most injuries
PP points/minute is the determining factor for who the best defenseman is, which is how Marc-Andre Bergeron won all those Norris trophies.

Regulation wins/losses as now: Jets 39/19 Leafs 33/23. That's Jets +20 and Leafs +10.
3v3 and shootouts won't play big role in playoffs.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

You don't actually need facts when you're a Leafs fan.

66 goals by U22 players is actually > 105 goals by U22 players.
97 points in a joke division with 3rd healthiest team in league > 102 points in toughest division with 3rd most injuries
PP points/minute is the determining factor for who the best defenseman is, which is how Marc-Andre Bergeron won all those Norris trophies.

I mean, if you want to evaluate a group of players purely by goals scored, then why not say the Leafs > Winnipeg because 255 goals for > 250 goals for? The only reason you're cherry picking is because it favors your players

 

[Cor]

“Look at our young players!”

“No, look at our young players!”

Shut up, we both have great young players!

 

[cneely]

Last season the Leafs were 1-8 in the shootout and you can say those loses cost them a top 3 spot in the Atlantic since they were tied in points with Boston for 3rd and why they had to settle for being in the 2nd Wild Card due to having less ROW wins. So I'm not going to be upset that they have a winning record in the shootout or think of it that's supposed to be bad or have some asterisk associated with it.

No one said that there should be an asterisk.
One poster said the only reason the Jets are ahead is because they have 3 more overtime losses than the Leafs. No.

 

[Paperbagofglory]

Have we not learned anything from last year? One year does not contender make.

 

[BrendanGallagher11]

Jets are close
Im not a big helley believer
Maybe hell prove me wrong
If they had price
The cup would be hoisted this playoff

 

[John Matthews]

Seems that Winnipeg is doing good, maybe even Toronto too? Whadya think?

Seems like a history lesson is store.

 

[Blue Shakehead]

I mean, if you want to evaluate a group of players purely by goals scored, then why not say the Leafs > Winnipeg because 255 goals for > 250 goals for? The only reason you're cherry picking is because it favors your players

I'm sorry, I was under the impression that goals by young players was the most important stat. Then I looked back and noticed that its only even strength goals that matter - particularly when debating Laine v Matthews. Total goals is only important when comparing Matthews favourably to McDavid.

Also power play points/minute is a very critical stat for defensemen but not skilled forwards. Welcome to Leafland.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

I'm sorry, I was under the impression that goals by young players was the most important stat. Then I looked back and noticed that its only even strength goals that matter - particularly when debating Laine v Matthews. Total goals is only important when comparing Matthews favourably to McDavid.

Also power play points/minute is a very critical stat for defensemen but not skilled forwards. Welcome to Leafland.

Why would you be under the impression that total goals is the only thing that matters when comparing a group of players? Stop trying to deflect by bringing up weird, irrelevant arguments to somehow try to make Leafs fans look bad due to previous discussions. You're making a terrible case for Winnipeg, and for yourself as a judge of talent

 

[TOGuy14]

Jets and Leafs are the most likely in the next five years.

 

[Guffman]

To suggest that the Jets window closes in a couple of years because of Buff’s and Wheeler’s age is so silly. The Jets are stacked with young talent, and this youth will continue to grow organically.

Anyways, plenty of years to quibble about this. Both team’s futures are bright.

 

[New Jersey]

Quebec.

See wut I did?

 

[bobholly39]

Quebec.

See wut I did?

No

What'd you do?

 

[Coffey]

It's down to the Leafs and Jets, the Oilers would be there but then they started doing stupid things like trading the Barzal pick to the NYI, trading Eberle to the NYI and trading Hall to the Devils for a #3 D man.

had they not done those stupid things they'd be a contender today, but they did and are now back at the bottom

Still ahead of Eberle and Barzal.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Still ahead of Eberle and Barzal.

That's fantastic you shoot for the stars!!!