+/- is a garbage nothing stat.
Maybe for fans, but not if you play the game.
+/- is a garbage nothing stat.
i know your a forsberg fan but cmon. Tarasenko gets about 10 more goals a year and 20 more points. Focal point of all offense coming from st louis. If he doesnt score they lose. Forsberg is a hell of a player tho.
Maybe for fans, but not if you play the game.
No, it's still a garbage stat that measures nothing beyond team offense at even strength. It's a super limited measurement that means absolutely nothing on an individual level.
The only thing more limited is the understanding of people who freely cite it as some sort of proof.
many Pens fans still not happy Shero took Pouliot over him.
As a an ex player, coach, and scout, I disagree. I understand why you and others do not like it, but a lot of people in the game still see value in this stat.
I want more reverse hits from Forsberg
......in the combined category of slashes to the face, spears to the solar plexus, running the goaltender and dives that would embarrass a soccer player?
......in the combined category of slashes to the face, spears to the solar plexus, running the goaltender and dives that would embarrass a soccer player?
Gretzky was a +28 in 1985.
Right now a +17 would be tied for 12th.
Highest by a current active player? Nathan Horton of all people was a +20 in 2013.
It has limited value. it was the best thing they had back in the day but there are a dozen better indicators right now of defensive/offensive play.
Not surprised it was gretzky. Did they get a + for powerplay goals in 1985?
Reminds me so much of a young Marian Hossa it's uncanny, but I think he could be even better when all is said and done.