fastest players into the hall
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Black Kevin
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NextYear67
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That doesn't guarantee McDavid to be in the HOF......
I disagre. If he were to retire today it would be due to a major inury or something worse. Between his pure dominance and whatever tradgeydy happened he would be in. Maybe not first ballaot, but he wuld be in without question.
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Gretzky is an obvious one.
Robert Orr
By the end of his 4th season he had....
- 3x Norris
- 1 x Smythe
- 1 x Art Ross
- Re wrote the record books for defensemen
- Calder
- 3x 1st AST, 1x 2nd AST
- 1 x Hart Trophy
FWIW he added another Hart/Norris/1st AST in his 5th season if you wanted to stretch it another year.
Robert Orr
By the end of his 4th season he had....
- 3x Norris
- 1 x Smythe
- 1 x Art Ross
- Re wrote the record books for defensemen
- Calder
- 3x 1st AST, 1x 2nd AST
- 1 x Hart Trophy
FWIW he added another Hart/Norris/1st AST in his 5th season if you wanted to stretch it another year.
kerrabria
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name a player with five of the most important trophies in the sport, plus other nominations, that weren't first ballot. let alone didn't make the hall.
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Winning the Hart is the surest ticket for HOF admission. While that’s less true now w/ Theodore and possibly Perry not making it in, the only other exceptions (I believe) were some WW2 era players. With that in mind, Gretzky, Crosby and McDavid winning it in their second years probably puts them at the top of the list.
Caveat is that it would depend on how/why the player retires. Injury or something like that might even bolster the player’s legacy. But if he retired after a couple average-to-sucky seasons it would obviously hurt his chances.
Caveat is that it would depend on how/why the player retires. Injury or something like that might even bolster the player’s legacy. But if he retired after a couple average-to-sucky seasons it would obviously hurt his chances.
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Seeing as you can't get in until after you're retired, the fasted inductees are the guys who got in without having to wait the full period. That list includes Gretzky, Lemieux, Belliveau, Lindsay, etc.
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Ovi should be in the hall now as the only player inducted while still active.
If we play the "tragedy card" its a huge boost to anyone though. Id argue maybe even someone like Eichel or Matthews might make the HHOF under those circumstances.
You have to try and separate the "he retired early due to a tragedy - he had such a promising career - lets induct him because we feel bad" idea or it completely changes the premise of the OP.
So we are under the assumption he just decided, "meh, I'm the best player in the game, but I'm going ot retire at 22"?? I'll stick with what is really the only likely scenario for any of them retiring at 22.
If you still don't like that, he has more prsonal awards than MANY people who are in the hall.
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Hold up. What pure dominance? He led the league in scoring in 2016-17 by 11 points, with the guy behind him playing 7 less games. 2017-18 he won the title by 6 points. Kucherov beat him by 12 the following year and this year Draisaitl has 1 less point. He's been good, and putting up points, but "pure dominance" is stretching it.
Im not disagreeing with you. I think the "tragedy card" would be a huge boost to anyone in a "if he retires today" scenario. People almost always overlook that so im glad you brought it up.
Im saying however you probably have to ignore it if you want to indulge the OP's premise if not it opens up the door in a huge way for many lesser players. Such as Eichel/Matthews/Mackinnon as of today for example. With a "tragedy retirement" - its plausible any of those are inducted.
Regarding McDavid - i agree he has enough merit with his accomplishments to make it.
I am a Leafs fan, i LOATH the Oilers, I would like nothing more than to say McDavid is just good, but thats not true. He is the best in the game right now. Each year another player will step up and push him for the title that specific year. But it is safe ot say he will always be the one player who is near the top if not clearly at the top.
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1st - 80 GP, 92 goals, 120 assists, 212 points
2nd - 80 GP, 64 goals, 83 assists, 147 points
That is what pure dominance looks like.
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Crosby and Malkin have a case for being HOFers by 2009, they were 21/22. They were both art ross winners with multiple 100 point seasons by that point. Throw in back to back cup finals appearances (one cup win) with incredible playoff performances by both (Crosby leading playoffs in scoring in 2008, Malkin in 2009) both years.
I don't think anyone's arguing McDavid is anything but the best guy going right now, but pure dominance implies head and shoulders above everyone which hasn't really happened (yet, his peak is still ahead of him).
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