Failing for Dahlin / The Official Tank Thread

Should the habs make a run for the playoffs or tank?

  • Playoffs

    Votes: 20 7.4%
  • Tank

    Votes: 249 92.6%

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Kudo Shinichi

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The real tank will start once Plekanec and Pacioretty are traded.

Losing Plekanec will hurt us a lot defensively.
Losing Pacioretty will hurt us a lot offensively.
 
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Legend123

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I would say:

Dahlin
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Svechnikov
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Zadina
Wahlstrom
Dobson
Boqvist
Tkachuk
Hughes
Bouchard
Wilde
Smith
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the rest

I see Zadina's game translate better to the NHL than Svech's (with schev having the better potential) game. Also Boqvist should be much higher than W and Dob
 

Goldenhands

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The real tank will start once Plekanec and Pacioretty are traded.

Losing Plekanec will hurt us a lot defensively.
Losing Pacioretty will hurt us a lot offensively.
Losing Plekanec might not hurt that much since Danault can pretty much do his job on a third line, it remains to see if Julien will keep Byron centering Patch or Danault will get his spot back.. Personally I prefer Byron to Danault to center the second line..
There is no guarentee we trade Patches, he shouldnt be traded for peanuts, it will depend how attractive or not the offers are.. My guess at this point is that Patches has about 50% chances to be traded.. I dont like the possibility the Sens trade Hoffman, that might lower Patch's trade value..

Personally I will be happy if we draft 6-7 since I feel one of Walstrom\Dobson still will be on the board, but I will be upset if we finish higher in the standing since that awful season could turn even worst on draft day in that position.. Thats why Bergevin has to make the right decisions, the right moves to make sure that miserable season dont turn in an eternal nightmare..
 
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Goldenhands

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I see Zadina's game translate better to the NHL than Svech's (with schev having the better potential) game. Also Boqvist should be much higher than W and Dob

The only thing Svech really has to work on is his positionning in his own zone and that can be improved easily, he is by far the most skilled foward in that draft and his work ethic is pretty good as well.. Only area where Zadina might have an edge on Svechnikov is top end compete level and determination..
 
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Kojo

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We're going to wind up drafting someone with a french sounding name if there is one available. Our reputation is so bad that even those kids don't want to play for us.

Also, if we draft someone good, he will be traded in Bergevin bid to become the worst GM ever.
 
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Legend123

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The only thing Svech really has to work on is his positionning in his own zone and that can be improved easily, he is by far the most skilled foward in that draft and his work ethic is pretty good as well.. Only area where Zadina might have an edge on Svechnikov is top end compete level and determination..
Svech lacks the IQ of a zadina like player imo
 

Goodbahd

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Dahlin is overrated, drafting defenseman 1st overall, like goalies, rarely ends up good. Anytime a defenseman is projected to go 1st overall, you know it’s a weak draft year.

This team needs a damn centre once and for all, Dahlin, and no defenseman in the league, is the answer to our problems. Until the centre position is fixed, there’s no point in discussing any other position. We are easily the worst team in the league at centre.


Habs need to make a decision, if they’re going to keep Price and Weber, then they should use their high draft picks as trade pieces to acquire centremen, otherwise trade Price and Weber, along with Pacioretty, and rebuild - acquire picks.
 
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bobholly39

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"Let' sacrifice a whole YEAR to increase our chance of landing a good player at the draft by 2-5% that may not even end up being better than the guy we would have drafted at the lower position".

Or - "make the playoffs with the best goalie in the world and hope we can do damage and win a few rounds"

Yeah. Option 2 by far.
 

Grate n Colorful Oz

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"Let' sacrifice a whole YEAR to increase our chance of landing a good player at the draft by 2-5% that may not even end up being better than the guy we would have drafted at the lower position".

Or - "make the playoffs with the best goalie in the world and hope we can do damage and win a few rounds"

Yeah. Option 2 by far.

Hmmm what you don't seem tp get is that the playoffs are not in reach and tge team is il-equipped for such a run.
 

bobholly39

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Hmmm what you don't seem tp get is that the playoffs are not in reach and tge team is il-equipped for such a run.

We have 46 points in 48 games
Toronto has 57 points in 49 games.

1 game in hand - let's say we win. We're 9 points back with 35 games to go.

We play Toronto twice still this season. Let's say we win both games (they count for 4 points each). So we're now 5 points back with 30 games to go. If they lose 1 random game and we win 1 random game on a same day - we're now 3 points back with 29 games to go.

We're not out of reach of the playoffs yet. The 2nd wildcard is still within grasp too. Obviously it takes us stringing a few wins in a row, but it's definitely still possible.
 

Captain Mountain

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We have 46 points in 48 games
Toronto has 57 points in 49 games.

1 game in hand - let's say we win. We're 9 points back with 35 games to go.

We play Toronto twice still this season. Let's say we win both games (they count for 4 points each). So we're now 5 points back with 30 games to go. If they lose 1 random game and we win 1 random game on a same day - we're now 3 points back with 29 games to go.

We're not out of reach of the playoffs yet. The 2nd wildcard is still within grasp too. Obviously it takes us stringing a few wins in a row, but it's definitely still possible.

Montreal has a 12% chance of making the playoffs.
 

NotProkofievian

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"Let' sacrifice a whole YEAR to increase our chance of landing a good player at the draft by 2-5% that may not even end up being better than the guy we would have drafted at the lower position".

Or - "make the playoffs with the best goalie in the world and hope we can do damage and win a few rounds"

Yeah. Option 2 by far.

Lol. What is this question begging nonsense? The ''best goalie in the world'' happens to be rocking a 2.96 GAA and 908 SV% at the moment. And what about option 3? The one in which we end up with neither the ''anything can happen'' bliss of the playoffs, or a high draft pick?

You wanna get dicked around like this and draft 14th? Be my guest. But don't call it rational.
 
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llamateizer

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We have 46 points in 48 games
Toronto has 57 points in 49 games.

1 game in hand - let's say we win. We're 9 points back with 35 games to go.

We play Toronto twice still this season. Let's say we win both games (they count for 4 points each). So we're now 5 points back with 30 games to go. If they lose 1 random game and we win 1 random game on a same day - we're now 3 points back with 29 games to go.

We're not out of reach of the playoffs yet. The 2nd wildcard is still within grasp too. Obviously it takes us stringing a few wins in a row, but it's definitely still possible.


Let's say that Montreal goes 20-8-6, Toronto need to go 16-18-5 so Montreal can potentially make the playoffs.

Montreal played 26 games at home vs 22.
15 at home and 19 away.
13-1-1 at home... you still need to have 7-7-5 away.

Montreal's record is 8-13-1 on the road.

In other word, Montreal need to play like a TOP 5 league for the rest of the season while playing more on the road AND Toronto plays like a BOTTOM 5 for the rest of the season while they play more at home.
 
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