FA/Trade Thread 14-15 Season V.20 - 5 days to TDD
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WestCoastLeafs
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Last four picks go to the semi-finalists, so Nashville's could easily be a 26th even if they stay in top spot - similar is true for Montreal.
Yeah, but neither was Broll or Ashton. Still, trimming the fat on our prospect list is something we needed to do. Especially if we start looking at NCAA free agents again (and there was some speculation we were interested in a couple players).
Yeah, I'd say so. We're transitioning into a whole new way of drafting and developing under Hunter, Dubas and Shanny. They value different things than Burke, and Nonis did.
We're going to see more risks taken based on skill, rather than try and draft a 4th line guy with limited upside.
One thing Hunter likes to do to, is take chances on fallers. Not necessarily in the top rounds, but later in the draft. If there is a kid supposed to go in the 3rd/4th, and he falls to the 6th let's say, Hunter would be more inclined to pick him, than say, Burke would have.
WestCoastLeafs
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Not a fan of MTL trades unless it includes their 1st, MTL seems stingy with trades, i dont see them as a real contender yet either, just a solid playoff team, they've had piss poor offence lately and have relied alot on price.
I wouldn't mind keeping Lupul for now. The guy plays hard when he's healthy. And the fact that he isn't usually healthy helps the tank effort. I think Lupul's value would actually be higher when his contract is almost up; i.e. if he's healthy for the last 1/2 year of his contract leading in the playoffs, teams may pay a lot for some cheap scoring help for the playoffs.
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Yeah if the rumours are true (think it was ChuckW who implied something) that Dion and Lupul will not be in the same locker room again and Lupul is on his way out it could mean they are thinking of keeping Dion.
But it could just mean they are planning to offload as many veterans as possible for picks and prospects and that Dion will be dealt with in the summer but they easier move Lupul this season?
Time will tell.
You guys will think I am nuts...I would keep Winnik....He has heart passion and grit.........Something this team will desperately need. They need to try and resign him this offseason if they trade him before the deadline.
johnny_rudeboy
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No reason at all to keep him for the rest of this season. We should however of course try and resign him in the off season. But who knows if he is interested in signing for a rebuilding team? But then it will always come down to the dollars and term and who is offering him the most. He is not some one you want to spend to much cash on but at the same time he is exactly the kind of player you want playing for you, rebuilding or not.
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God I hope there's good interest in at least one of Bozak, Lupul and Phaneuf.
Also, it's pretty crazy the lack of negativity towards the Flyers and Giroux. He doesn't have an even strength goal at home ALL SEASON LONG. Imagine if that was Kessel for a second...
Also, it's pretty crazy the lack of negativity towards the Flyers and Giroux. He doesn't have an even strength goal at home ALL SEASON LONG. Imagine if that was Kessel for a second...
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ChuckWoods
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For the culture of this room, I hope its Dion that is dealt.
Obviously I personally would be happy if Lupuls contract were moved due to his health, but I think the bigger impct move now and long term is not having Dion here.
Obviously I personally would be happy if Lupuls contract were moved due to his health, but I think the bigger impct move now and long term is not having Dion here.
Mr Knies Guy
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Damn, i think many of us already thought Dion was a joke of a leader but I gotta think there's a legit fire with all the smoke that's flying
Looney Toonies
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I think the time to move both players is now, Lupul still has the ability to be a 60 point forward, he just needs to stay healthy(Not likely) some teams in the playoffs/in the hunt could be swayed to make the risky move.
Dion IMO is still a top pairing D man, all he needs is a top D man to play with. Not sure who would be willing to take the cap hit, but I'm sure if he in fact is being shopped there will be interest.
Dion IMO is still a top pairing D man, all he needs is a top D man to play with. Not sure who would be willing to take the cap hit, but I'm sure if he in fact is being shopped there will be interest.
ZINFINITY16
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I think it would be smart if we tried to get Chicago while their desperate for a bit of a change and cap room.
Chicago:
J. Lupul (30% retained: 3.675 Million$)
R. Polak (2.75 Million$)
D. Winnik
Toronto:
P. Sharp (5.9 Million$)
2015 1st Round Pick
Sharp brings leadership for the future young guys and we now have 3 first round picks in a deep draft!
Chicago:
J. Lupul (30% retained: 3.675 Million$)
R. Polak (2.75 Million$)
D. Winnik
Toronto:
P. Sharp (5.9 Million$)
2015 1st Round Pick
Sharp brings leadership for the future young guys and we now have 3 first round picks in a deep draft!
Mr Knies Guy
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I think Lupul is gone for cheap. I think with his comments about not getting rid of players, he seems to not buy in to going young and is annoyed by the call to tank but it's too little too late. They'll probably dump him for a mid pick and c prospect to a playoff team looking for a flier. No way you can get any sort of good value for this glass man on a big contract, no matter how talented he is
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ChuckWoods
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I personally think there is little to no respect for Dion around the league as a Leader or Captain.
Im not saying hes not a Top Pairing defender, but I think he would excel in a lesser role.
Leaf fans would love him if he wasnt our Captain and played big 2nd pairing minutes.
Your typical rumours that come up when teams struggle or players request a trade.
Not sure what Chuck is talking about though.
johnny_rudeboy
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I think his comment was made as the exact opposite. He understands we will rebuild but he wants to be on the team as one of the veterans so he was just saying getting rid of every veteran is not the best thing to do.
His comments about not being 100% healthy for the rest of this season, 2 weeks before the TDL do seem like he dont want to get traded.
If that is because he rather was moved in the summer, that he enjoy life in Toronto to much or that he actually believe the youth we have, the trades we will make and with our pick this year that could even end up being McDavid, he reckon our rebuild will not take to long?
He probably see his chances to play out his contract on the wing of a generational center as 8.5-9.5% if he stays...
that is EASILY my biggest issue with him
the tone and example our beloved leader and captain set for the rest after he and his camp extorted that horrific contract , it's pathetic and toxic
nothing i want around my locker room
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