Confirmed with Link: f*** you brad treliving (Gaudreau to test FA)

[lightstorm]

As a Canuck fan, I know we're mortal enemies, but it sucks to see him walk like this after you guys bent over backwards to try and sign him. Reminds me a bit of how Tavares left, but more amicable.

Meh, Iginla did the same thing, played the Flames then changed his mind and we lost him essentially for nothing, lost Brodie and Gio for nothing, Regehr for almost nothing, Phaneuf for Stajan and pile of poo, Gilmour for even bigger pile of poo back in the day.

This is nothing new.

 

[NewEraGM]

Need to tear it town. Tkachuk about to walk and they could still get a massive haul for him but can’t let him get to UFA. Outside of that, not much except for Mangi. Older group.

Need a reset but they do have a few nice prospects coming in Pelletier, Zary, Coronato

 

[Tatanka]

Sabre fan to commiserate with you. Losing Drury and Briere started the long slide into the abyss. I hope you are spared that. It doesn’t have to go that way. Good luck!

 

[BobColesNasalCavity]

Pelletier-Bedard-Coronato will be the resurrection of the franchise until they leave as UFAs

 

[D0ctorCool]

Meh, Iginla did the same thing, played the Flames then changed his mind and we lost him essentially for nothing, lost Brodie and Gio for nothing, Regehr for almost nothing, Phaneuf for Stajan and pile of poo, Gilmour for even bigger pile of poo back in the day.

This is nothing new.

Well that's a depressing perspective. Well, at least Gaudreau gave you one day of notice before Free Agency?

 

[StCaufield]

Yeah screw you Brad how dare you not offer 150 million per season because 10 isn’t enough

 

[Some Other Flame]

Again, can't and won't blame Treliving (too much) for Gaudreau walking. Gaudreau said all the right things, the team was competitive and most importantly, I doubt ownership would have even entertained the thought given he's the guy who sells tickets.

But you absolutely fire Treliving for not taking the rumored Devils deal. How much more optimistic would folks be right now knowing they had Wright and likely another high pick next year to build around?

Regardless, I hope in the upcoming weeks, months, and years some if not all of Hanifin, Tkachuk, Lindholm, Mangiapane, Backlund, Tanev, Markstrom, Toffoli, and Coleman are moved.

 

[super6646]

Meh, Iginla did the same thing, played the Flames then changed his mind and we lost him essentially for nothing, lost Brodie and Gio for nothing, Regehr for almost nothing, Phaneuf for Stajan and pile of poo, Gilmour for even bigger pile of poo back in the day.

This is nothing new.

Iginla was 35 and wanted to win a cup…

Different circumstances entirely.

 

[Quickdraw2828]

Dammit. Moved to Calgary a year ago and that was so much fun going on that run and now he’s gone. You guys are being too nice. I hope he doesn’t win shit for the rest of his career !

That's how I feel about Tavares. And you know what? It's coming true!

 

[26Mats]

Again, can't and won't blame Treliving (too much) for Gaudreau walking. Gaudreau said all the right things, the team was competitive and most importantly, I doubt ownership would have even entertained the thought given he's the guy who sells tickets.

But you absolutely fire Treliving for not taking the rumored Devils deal. How much more optimistic would folks be right now knowing they had Wright and likely another high pick next year to build around?

Regardless, I hope in the upcoming weeks, months, and years some if not all of Hanifin, Tkachuk, Lindholm, Mangiapane, Backlund, Tanev, Markstrom, Toffoli, and Coleman are moved.

What was the rumored Devils deal?

 

[super6646]

What was the rumored Devils deal?

Second overall +

 

[PecnoTrunk]

I’ll say it again , at the expense of getting insults from posters , American players don’t want to play in Canada. Yes to European players. But Americans don’t want to finish in Canada.

 

[Some Other Flame]

I’ll say it again , at the expense of getting insults from posters , American players don’t want to play in Canada. Yes to European players. But Americans don’t want to finish in Canada.

Generalizations like this don't work. Brady Tkachuk just signed for 8 years in Ottawa. Boeser keeps re-signing in Vancouver. Wheeler kept re-signing with the Jets.

Flames are just a poorly run organization for the most part. And most poorly run organizations will struggle to retain talent no matter the location.

 

[Volica]

Poor asset management, but what else is new in Calgary.

I think he’s going to Philly. He’ll take a hometown under 9.5x7.

My main thing here is the next steps? What are the next steps for this franchise now? You have a Western Canadian mega star at the top of the draft in 2023, a guy who could change the direction of this franchise for the next decade and a half. You have a team that had an unreal run this year, but is only a year removed from being a horrible club. You have a bunch of assets that could kick start a rebuild.

You just know the direction of this team is going to be try and be competitive until literally the wheels fall off, we draft 6th overall in a weak draft and call it a day.

Just brutal. Just a brutal franchise, it’s not even fun being a fan of this team. One step forward, two steps back around every turn.

 

[Anglesmith]

The f*** you belongs to Gaudreau and Gaudreau alone. Don't water it down by sharing it with Treliving.

 

[Dack]

Generalizations like this don't work. Brady Tkachuk just signed for 8 years in Ottawa. Boeser keeps re-signing in Vancouver. Wheeler kept re-signing with the Jets.

Flames are just a poorly run organization for the most part. And most poorly run organizations will struggle to retain talent no matter the location.

Johnny's ask was also 8x8 in RFA negotiations. Him not wanting to spend his whole career here isn't the same thing as Adam Fox straight up refusing to play here.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

So as a Flyers fan who is pretty sure he's coming here, know two things:

1) If Johnny Hockey insisted on leaving for reasons other than money/hockey, y'all couldn't do anything about it. I know it feels good to blame the GM, but the heart wants what it wants sometimes.

2) We take no joy in acquiring Johnny if he comes here. We don't want Fletcher to sign him because we're a bad team to sign him. However I hope he's successful here (or wherever he goes) and you all still have love for him.

 

[Some Other Flame]

Johnny's ask was also 8x8 in RFA negotiations. Him not wanting to spend his whole career here isn't the same thing as Adam Fox straight up refusing to play here.

Yeah and Steinberg apparently said the other day that Gaudreau was more than willing to re-sign last summer and that they came fairly close.

But this franchise is poorly run so and Treliving is kind of a moron who likely deluded himself into thinking the Flames were the Lightning and could risk taking a hardline stance with their star players. So instead of "overpaying" Gaudreau by 500K or 1M when he was an RFA or a year away from being an UFA, they embarrassed themselves in the end and are left holding the bag.

 

[Mobiandi]

Any top team in any sport sets deadlines for these things so that there are contingencies in place when shit hits the fan. Treliving had 6 years to prepare for this possible direction and is talking about how the dog ate his homework with 5 hours to go until free agency.

Treliving strong-armed Gaudreau into his 6-year deal and now he got a taste of his own medicine

 

[Kranix]

This franchise does not draft well and johnny was that late round diamond and he's gone

 

[Some Other Flame]

So as a Flyers fan who is pretty sure he's coming here, know two things:

1) If Johnny Hockey insisted on leaving for reasons other than money/hockey, y'all couldn't do anything about it. I know it feels good to blame the GM, but the heart wants what it wants sometimes.

2) We take no joy in acquiring Johnny if he comes here. We don't want Fletcher to sign him because we're a bad team to sign him. However I hope he's successful here (or wherever he goes) and you all still have love for him.

He's almost certainly going to be massively booed the next time he comes to the Saddledome simply because a lot of fans are pretty pissed that this went down to the wire and that he "Tavares'd" them. Whether or not it's justified is irrelevant; fans bought their tickets - they can boo or cheer whoever they want.

But I wouldn't boo him. Mostly because I'm not giving the organization another dime until Edwards sells but still.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Well I'm going to basically be watching Sens games predominantly this season, see ya everyone!

 

[DFF]

The f*** you belongs to Gaudreau and Gaudreau alone. Don't water it down by sharing it with Treliving.

f*** Johnny for playing Treliving like a fool
f*** Treliving for being a fool

 

[Anglesmith]

f*** Johnny for playing Treliving like a fool
f*** Treliving for being a fool

I disagree that Treliving was "fooled," though. I think this all came down to Gaudreau's value fluctuating with really poor timing for us.

I personally wouldn't have wanted the Flames to trade Gaudreau last summer when his value was low. He was a guy carving out a track record as a top-line player who got dominated by opposing top lines, and on top of that he had one year of team control and strong indications that he wanted to be able to pick his destination. Basically, all the reasons why we would have been happy to trade him were reasons other teams would have wanted a low cost.

I don't believe we would've gotten much more than a late first and some meh prospects, and I feel like that, combined with another mediocre season without him, wouldn't really have pushed this organization forward at all. And on top of that, if we had dealt him for a fair return at the time and then he immediately had a 115-point season, you all would have been even more mad at Treliving than you are today.

I absolutely would not have been in favour of trading him during this season when that value had recovered. And I don't believe that Gaudreau had interest in signing an extension when his value had depreciated. So all in all, we were just kind of f***ed by the timing of it all. If he'd had this season a year prior, the Flames would have had much better options with how to proceed.

Really, the only reason I'm mad today is because Gaudreau expressed very clearly that he would love to return to Calgary with the right deal. He didn't say he wanted to focus on hockey until the offseason. He didn't say it was something he would need to work out with his family. He said that an extension here would be something he would want to do. Today proved that that was a complete bald-faced lie. I just hope that Gaudreau was more honest with management behind the scenes (though it doesn't sound like it).

 

[HighLifeMan]

The f*** you belongs to Gaudreau and Gaudreau alone. Don't water it down by sharing it with Treliving.

This. Johnny played hardball in negotiations to the very bitter end in order to set up a market and number for himself out east knowing full well he wasn’t returning to Calgary. This was not a last minute decision, it was all calculated. It’s a greaseball move no matter how the Johnny fan boys wants to spin it.