F Cole Caufield - Univ. of Wisconsin, NCAA (2019, 15th, MTL) Part 2

[tealhockey]

Vanek is the only one, right? In 2002-2003 scored 31 goals in 45 games.

Of the recent ones, Brock Boeser had 27 in 42 games and Jack Eichel 26 in 40 games.

He could break those for sure. The Big Ten only has one or two teams we could call really strong defensively in my opinion, and he's got 24 games to play against those teams come November.

 

[Overworm]

Oh he will break those records alright. He’s very competitive, he wants to be the best at what he’s good at and I read in an article that he’s always jumping on the ice every night games thinking about whose record he’s up against. He won’t put up with being no.2.

 

[Tasty Biscuits]

I am just wondering, does anybody know what were the best goal totals for a rookie in the NCAA for the last 15 years? Say a top 10? (I have a hard time comparing totals to that of guys back in the 70s/80s were hockey was so different).

Just curious to see what kind of players have scored 30+ in their rookie, 18th years old season in the NCAA (whether it's common or not) in the last 15ish years.

Vanek is the only one, right? In 2002-2003 scored 31 goals in 45 games.

Of the recent ones, Brock Boeser had 27 in 42 games and Jack Eichel 26 in 40 games.

Kyle Connor had 35 goals in 38 games in the 15-16 season.

 

[ijuka]

On Cole Caufield. At u-18s, he absolutely blew me away. I must have been missing something while watching him earlier, because I didn't recall him being that impressive before then at all. He in my eyes was team USA's best player, better than Jack Hughes, while tying him in point production with more goals. If he did play at that level before then, it's tough to understand how his scoring with USNTDP could possibly have been so low. As such, I'd assume that he improved at a swift pace towards the end of the season, and we're seeing a continuation from that right now. I think that his game even looks quite pro-ready. The only major question mark is whether his size will be an issue, and that still genuinely worries me even though I know that smaller players tend to be quite effective in today's NHL. He just is so small, and he's not quite that amazing a skater that I could be comfortable with his NHL career. Still, it's looking very good.

Kyle Connor had 35 goals in 38 games in the 15-16 season.

Kyle Connor was a u-20 player, this was about u-19 players. Although it's true that with his birth date, the difference's small.

 

[habbyboolin]

On Cole Caufield. At u-18s, he absolutely blew me away. I must have been missing something while watching him earlier, because I didn't recall him being that impressive before then at all. He in my eyes was team USA's best player, better than Jack Hughes, while tying him in point production with more goals. If he did play at that level before then, it's tough to understand how his scoring with USNTDP could possibly have been so low. As such, I'd assume that he improved at a swift pace towards the end of the season, and we're seeing a continuation from that right now. I think that his game even looks quite pro-ready. The only major question mark is whether his size will be an issue, and that still genuinely worries me even though I know that smaller players tend to be quite effective in today's NHL. He just is so small, and he's not quite that amazing a skater that I could be comfortable with his NHL career. Still, it's looking very good.

Kyle Connor was a u-20 player, this was about u-19 players. Although it's true that with his birth date, the difference's small.

I watched every single USA game and there wasn't one game Jack Hughes wasn't the best player on the ice. He was dynamite, definitely better than Caufield in my eyes.

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

I watched every single USA game and there wasn't one game Jack Hughes wasn't the best player on the ice. He was dynamite, definitely better than Caufield in my eyes.

It still early to tell, at the moment Hughes is definitely not Generational

 

[habbyboolin]

It still early to tell, at the moment Hughes is definitely not Generational

Did I say he was?

 

[tealhockey]

I watched every single USA game and there wasn't one game Jack Hughes wasn't the best player on the ice. He was dynamite, definitely better than Caufield in my eyes.

I watched basically every game as well, I thought there were games where he could be called 3rd-best player behind Turcotte, some games Zegras was insane too, not to mention Boldy, York, etc... He did always show insane potential but it's not like he was very challenged with the type of players he played with. I thought he looked complacent at times, how can you not on a super-team?

There are comments always about playmakers like 'imagine how many goals he would have had if his teammates buried all the good chances', and in this case there were not many great plays he set up that his teammates did not capitalize on, so everyone looked good. Also, playing that team was over-whelming, how do you handle FOUR first-round centers (Hughes into Turcotte into Zegras into Beecher) in some games. Lindmark was a hell of a center too, 'only' fourth rounder. That makes everyone look good when the other team has to handle a quality center every single shift. They ran teams down.

 

[Minnesota Wild]

I watched basically every game as well, I thought there were games where he could be called 3rd-best player behind Turcotte, some games Zegras was insane too, not to mention Boldy, York, etc... He did always show insane potential but it's not like he was very challenged with the type of players he played with. I thought he looked complacent at times, how can you not on a super-team?

There are comments always about playmakers like 'imagine how many goals he would have had if his teammates buried all the good chances', and in this case there were not many great plays he set up that his teammates did not capitalize on, so everyone looked good. Also, playing that team was over-whelming, how do you handle FOUR first-round centers (Hughes into Turcotte into Zegras into Beecher) in some games. Lindmark was a hell of a center too, 'only' fourth rounder. That makes everyone look good when the other team has to handle a quality center every single shift. They ran teams down.

Wasn't Zegras on the wing? Your point still stands, that team was stacked.

 

[Fogelhund]

I watched every single USA game and there wasn't one game Jack Hughes wasn't the best player on the ice. He was dynamite, definitely better than Caufield in my eyes.

Look deeper into his post. It's a side swipe at Hughes, because the Finnish player didn't go first overall... Posting pattern oft repeated.

Caufield has four goals, in two games, five points overall in his NCAA debut. Man the kid can put the puck in the net. I wonder how many NCAA seasons he plays, before he goes to the NHL?

 

[tealhockey]

Wasn't Zegras on the wing? Your point still stands, that team was stacked.

They had different configurations, he had some time at center. He's a center this year for BU. Turcotte injured at times, etc.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Look deeper into his post. It's a side swipe at Hughes, because the Finnish player didn't go first overall... Posting pattern oft repeated.

Caufield has four goals, in two games, five points overall in his NCAA debut. Man the kid can put the puck in the net. I wonder how many NCAA seasons he plays, before he goes to the NHL?

Apparently Caufield wants to start to play in the NHL by the end of the year.

The habs are open to it but they will evaluate this option more seriously once his season is over.

 

[HOPE]

Apparently Caufield wants to start to play in the NHL by the end of the year.

The habs are open to it but they will evaluate this option more seriously once his season is over.

Thats in my 2019-2020 Bold habs predictions, along with Drouin being the best foward! Lets go.

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

Caufields' shots and PP abilities are already top NHL elite level, he can play full time in MTL PP, which would help A LOT.

He would already make an impact in the NHL

 

[zharkenby]

On Cole Caufield. At u-18s, he absolutely blew me away. I must have been missing something while watching him earlier, because I didn't recall him being that impressive before then at all. He in my eyes was team USA's best player, better than Jack Hughes, while tying him in point production with more goals. If he did play at that level before then, it's tough to understand how his scoring with USNTDP could possibly have been so low. As such, I'd assume that he improved at a swift pace towards the end of the season, and we're seeing a continuation from that right now. I think that his game even looks quite pro-ready. The only major question mark is whether his size will be an issue, and that still genuinely worries me even though I know that smaller players tend to be quite effective in today's NHL. He just is so small, and he's not quite that amazing a skater that I could be comfortable with his NHL career. Still, it's looking very good.

Kyle Connor was a u-20 player, this was about u-19 players. Although it's true that with his birth date, the difference's small.

Your narrative is disgustingly obvious ... habs fans Cole is great, but please don't buy into this guys hype.

 

[ijuka]

Your narrative is disgustingly obvious ... habs fans Cole is great, but please don't buy into this guys hype.

I wasn't alone in my opinion at all.

 

[Overworm]

Cole Caufield : passion hockey

The ascension of Cole Caufield from teary-eyed toddler to...

Cole Caufield: Fortune Teller and Natural Goal-Scorer

 

[zharkenby]

I wasn't alone in my opinion at all.

hes not better than Hughes. Utterly ridiculous claim with no facts to back it up.

 

[ijuka]

hes not better than Hughes. Utterly ridiculous claim with no facts to back it up.

Just had better u-18s. And I mean, he scored better there, with a higher goal-to-assist ratio and the same amount of points, and a better plus/minus. Yes, I know statkeeping swallowed 2 of his assists, but that doesn't mean they didn't happen.

Again, it was a very popular opinion that Caufield was team USA's best player at u-18s.

 

[Tasty Biscuits]

Kyle Connor was a u-20 player, this was about u-19 players. Although it's true that with his birth date, the difference's small.

Right yeah, he was 18 when he started his Freshman year, so he was the same age as his freshman peers throughout that season. I understand the distinction, but from a collegiate standpoint, there is no difference -- Caufield will turn 19 during his Freshman year a little less than a month after Connor did.

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

Your narrative is disgustingly obvious ... habs fans Cole is great, but please don't buy into this guys hype.

I actualy think that Caufield will have a better NHL career than Jack. Caufield will score over 40+ and will become a PP beast on the same level as Ovi

 

[ijuka]

Right yeah, he was 18 when he started his Freshman year, so he was the same age as his freshman peers throughout that season. I understand the distinction, but from a collegiate standpoint, there is no difference -- Caufield will turn 19 during his Freshman year a little less than a month after Connor did.

Yeah ahah, it's just that I searched for u-19 stats. I agree that it doesn't make a big difference.

 

[Overworm]

Right yeah, he was 18 when he started his Freshman year, so he was the same age as his freshman peers throughout that season. I understand the distinction, but from a collegiate standpoint, there is no difference -- Caufield will turn 19 during his Freshman year a little less than a month after Connor did.

1 year or 2 years difference won’t matter to him, he will break Kyle Connor’s record cause that’s just how Cole Caufield’s mentality is set at. To prove people wrong he has to make the old records bite the dust by breaking them. Matthews record in NTDP, Connor’s record in NCAA are all standing there to be over shadowed by his.

 

[tealhockey]

I actualy think that Caufield will have a better NHL career than Jack. Caufield will score over 40+ and will become a PP beast on the same level as Ovi

He might be. I think he'll at least be a very solid player. The wild card for me is Boldy. Could be a 'bust', could be a star.

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

He might be. I think he'll at least be a very solid player. The wild card for me is Boldy. Could be a 'bust', could be a star.

Boldy is my coup de coeur pick in the USDP, I love his way of thinking the game and slowing it down.

CAufield biggest attribute is his PP skills, which are now extremely in demand in the NHL ( we are seeing team building their team for the PP)