LeBrun: Erik Karlsson and Sharks will discuss contract extension after all-star break

[Suddenly Zyuzin]

That team is gonna get old in a hurry soon. I hope EK signs wisely

Feel like this has been said about the Sharks for the last 7-8 years now.

 

[Patty Ice]

Feel like this has been said about the Sharks for the last 7-8 years now.

It's weird. It's like the Sharks are like every other team. They are able to find and develop young talent.

They are suppose to stay stagnant in the roster movement.

 

[Ugene Magic]

I'd be a little intrigued to see how 34.0/34.0+ cap works for them in the coming years, and that would probably come at the cost of forwards loading up the back end so much with 3 huge long commitments.

25.0/25.0+ (depending on what he signs for) for 3 guys for a long.... time.

They lose Thornton helps and maybe re-sign Pavs.

It's not death, but I'm intrigued.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

Feel like this has been said about the Sharks for the last 7-8 years now.

And they were older by every metric in 2009-2010, and they are 3rd in regular season wins and 5th in playoff wins between then and now.

 

[wetcoast]

What would the Sharks sign Timo Meier to if EK65 earns himself a 12-13M deal? Thinking Timo gets bridged?

Something will need to happen as Lebanc is up as well. Pavalski is the key, does he give the Sharks a hometown discount to stay?

Thorton will no doubt if he doesn't retire. Donoski is also up and will want a raise from his 1.9 cap hit.

It will be very interesting to see how it unfolds as San Jose might be the perfect pot for Karlsson.

 

[wetcoast]

He's signing for 8 years or going to FA. He isn't signing a short term deal right now.

That would be my guess as well and San Jose is probably the best fit, maybe Las Vegas 2nd best.

 

[These Are The Days]

Feel like this has been said about the Sharks for the last 7-8 years now.

I assure you I was not one of those people saying that at that time.

 

[Rick C137]

I had no idea that Sharks fans were this optimistic about the long term future of their team until this thread. Seems strange to me. Aging core, “next core” not good enough to carry the team, one of the worst prospect pools in the league, and to make it worse they don’t any potential at a decent pick over the next few years.

If they re-sign Karlsson it seems like they’re gonna be stuck in that “good not great” area for a long time.

 

[OrrNumber4]

I had no idea that Sharks fans were this optimistic about the long term future of their team until this thread. Seems strange to me. Aging core, “next core” not good enough to carry the team, one of the worst prospect pools in the league, and to make it worse they don’t any potential at a decent pick over the next few years.

If they re-sign Karlsson it seems like they’re gonna be stuck in that “good not great” area for a long time.

I'm not sure that is an accurate assessment of their prospect pool.

 

[Rick C137]

I'm not sure that is an accurate assessment of their prospect pool.

Where do you think the Sharks prospect pool is as compared to other teams around the league?

 

[wetcoast]

I had no idea that Sharks fans were this optimistic about the long term future of their team until this thread. Seems strange to me. Aging core, “next core” not good enough to carry the team, one of the worst prospect pools in the league, and to make it worse they don’t any potential at a decent pick over the next few years.

If they re-sign Karlsson it seems like they’re gonna be stuck in that “good not great” area for a long time.

I disagree having Burns and Karlsson on the back end will take the Sharks a long way.

They have a really good balance in their top 9 forwards.

A guy like Palveski will age well and he is really the only top 9 forward over the age of 30 (I'm considering Thorton as a part time specialist right now and especially if he resigns a one year deal in the offseason).

 

[Zerotonine]

8 year 88 million dollar deal were ever it maybe

 

[Rick C137]

I disagree having Burns and Karlsson on the back end will take the Sharks a long way.

They have a really good balance in their top 9 forwards.

A guy like Palveski will age well and he is really the only top 9 forward over the age of 30 (I'm considering Thorton as a part time specialist right now and especially if he resigns a one year deal in the offseason).

But for how long? Burns turns 34 in 2 months. You can’t fight Father Time forever.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

But for how long? Burns turns 34 in 2 months. You can’t fight Father Time forever.

You can’t, but given Burns’ aging curve thus far and his off-ice dedication, I’m confident that he can win the fight against Father Time and remain an elite defenseman for at least 2 more seasons after this one.

 

[Patty Ice]

Where do you think the Sharks prospect pool is as compared to other teams around the league?

Who cares where they would be ranked right now? It's where they end up. The Sharks have a history of developing late round talent. Did any of you nerds think Pavelski was going to be a part of the Sharks core back when he was a prospect? How about Vlasic?

Also, is the league going to now prevent Wilson from pulling off blockbusters like no ones business? That has to stop at some point too, right? I mean he was able to pull off a Karlsson deal from their no name talent pool.

 

[wetcoast]

You can’t, but given Burns’ aging curve thus far and his off-ice dedication, I’m confident that he can win the fight against Father Time and remain an elite defenseman for at least 2 more seasons after this one.

I think that he can remain elite for more than 2 seasons myself.

Also his descent won't be as huge as it would be for a froward.

Pavelski should age well as a forward as he uses his stick and positioning more than pure skills like speed or a laser shot. His hockey IQ is very good.

 

[Rick C137]

Who cares where they would be ranked right now? It's where they end up. The Sharks have a history of developing late round talent. Did any of you nerds think Pavelski was going to be a part of the Sharks core back when he was a prospect? How about Vlasic?

Well it matters in the context of the conversation of who I was quoting if you even read that. The poster said the Sharks don’t have a bottom prospect pool and I’m genuinely curious as to if that was just an opinion of one fan and if not where the Sharks fans think there prospect pool is right now.

In fairness you just listed two players,(neither drafted within the last 14 years) as a “history of doing of devleoping late round talent”. It’s not a very convincing argument... and wasn’t Vlasic a 2nd rounder? Duncan Keith was drafted later than him, lol. And we also had Byfuglien in the 8th. Do the hawks also have a history of developing late round talent too? I think you could point to quite a few teams that have developed a good player or two outside the top rounds in the past 20 years. Sometimes players are just late bloomers.

Thanks for calling me a nerd though. Was never the greatest student so that was the self esteem boost I needed today.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

Who cares where they would be ranked right now? It's where they end up. The Sharks have a history of developing late round talent. Did any of you nerds think Pavelski was going to be a part of the Sharks core back when he was a prospect? How about Vlasic?

Also, is the league going to now prevent Wilson from pulling off blockbusters like no ones business? That has to stop at some point too, right? I mean he was able to pull off a Karlsson deal from their no name talent pool.

I remember trying to convince people that a package headlined by Meier, Merkley, or LaBanc, would be in line with the other offers that Ottawa had reportedly received for Karlsson. Then he acquired Karlsson without giving up any of those pieces.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

I think that he can remain elite for more than 2 seasons myself.

Also his descent won't be as huge as it would be for a froward.

Pavelski should age well as a forward as he uses his stick and positioning more than pure skills like speed or a laser shot. His hockey IQ is very good.

I agree on both counts on Burns. I think people are going to be really shocked with how he ages going forward. And as long as he and Karlsson are playing at or close to the level they have played this season, the team is a legitimate contender.

Pavelski, I’m not so sure about. His skating is god awful and you’ve got to wonder how much more it can decline before he just can’t keep up. However, he isn’t actually that important to the team anymore.

Where do you think the Sharks prospect pool is as compared to other teams around the league?

Where do you think the Sharks prospect pool ranks in terms of what is most important to Erik Karlsson?

I don’t think he’s going to be reading Hockey’s Future and counting how many Sharks are an 8.0C or better. I would bet that he’s going to look at the success of the NHL team right now, and that he might take a quick look at the Barracuda who just so happen to be the best team in the AHL.

 

[Rick C137]

I agree on both counts on Burns. I think people are going to be really shocked with how he ages going forward. And as long as he and Karlsson are playing at or close to the level they have played this season, the team is a legitimate contender.

Pavelski, I’m not so sure about. His skating is god awful and you’ve got to wonder how much more it can decline before he just can’t keep up. However, he isn’t actually that important to the team anymore.



Where do you think the Sharks prospect pool ranks in terms of what is most important to Erik Karlsson?

I don’t think he’s going to be reading Hockey’s Future and counting how many Sharks are an 8.0C or better. I would bet that he’s going to look at the success of the NHL team right now, and that he might take a quick look at the Barracuda who just so happen to be the best team in the AHL.

I don’t understand what point you are trying to make here. When did I say anything about what would be important to Karlsson? A Sharks fan refuted just my point about the Sharks prospect pool and I was looking for clarification.

 

[one2gamble]

I don't disagree that the sharks pool lacks top line talent. It does, but that's because they rarely draft inside the top 10. Anything after that is a crap shoot.

That said, the sharks are very good at finding middle six forwards everywhere and they have recently revamped the way they do scouting. So far they have been rock solid.

Being good not great for 20 years is not a bad thing.......

 

[Rschmitz]

8 years 72 Million to TB

 

[Patty Ice]

Well it matters in the context of the conversation of who I was quoting if you even read that. The poster said the Sharks don’t have a bottom prospect pool and I’m genuinely curious as to if that was just an opinion of one fan and if not where the Sharks fans think there prospect pool is right now.

In fairness you just listed two players,(neither drafted within the last 14 years) as a “history of doing of devleoping late round talent”. It’s not a very convincing argument... and wasn’t Vlasic a 2nd rounder? Duncan Keith was drafted later than him, lol. And we also had Byfuglien in the 8th. Do the hawks also have a history of developing late round talent too? I think you could point to quite a few teams that have developed a good player or two outside the top rounds in the past 20 years. Sometimes players are just late bloomers.

Thanks for calling me a nerd though. Was never the greatest student so that was the self esteem boost I needed today.

Few things. I wasn't listing Pavelski and Vlasic as their late round finds. Go check their history, the Sharks are littered with late round NHL players. Second, I wasn't calling you a nerd but the HF population in general. Very few people on here are ever right about anything so where a team is ranked in the opinion of someone here I can give two shits about. Besides you don't have to be smart to be a nerd.

 

[Suddenly Zyuzin]

Where do you think the Sharks prospect pool is as compared to other teams around the league?

On hfboards, it seems like so many people focus more on prospect pools and minor league rankings more than the actual success of the NHL club. Sharks haven't had a "great prospect pool" for many years too along with the aging core and all other reasons why the end times are near for them. Yet, year after year, they are right there as a solid playoff team at least. While all the teams bragging about their prospect pools and youth and bright futures are the ones who are hit or miss.

Rather than worrying about what random hfboards people think of the future of a team, Sharks seem to be more focused on being a good team year after year. As fans, why worry about anything more than that?

 

[Crazy Joe Divola]

8 years 72 Million to TB

TB can’t offer 8th year. Only SJ can.