Erik Karlsson - 23 games, 2 goals, 15pts. -6

[Drij]

san jose fan who actually watches the games saying karlsson has been doing his thing just fine and it's only getting better.
he is kicking major ass out there, the team is just not an especially high scoring team. he is obviously our most talented D.
he has turned a top third team in the league to near the very top.

because the sens where a high scoring team right....

 

[Masked]

Rarely gets called out on?

Every time he’s been on the ice for a goal against in the past 7 years he’s gotten called out and blamed on.

I can even remember him getting called out for a goal that he wasn't on the ice for by the TSN crew a few years back.

 

[Masked]

There's been a lot of comments where EK has been raised at the level of Orr, or even above.

Unless you can provide links to those comments, I'm going to call you a bald-faced liar on that one!

 

[bdub24]

How many cups has he won?

 

[BradyTkachucky]

I can't wait to visit this thread in a couple of months. Karlsson is ELITE and it won't be long until he starts playing like it. This talk that Ottawa won the trade is garbage. EK is the best defencemen in the NHL, and a top player. SJ are lucky to have him.

 

[Alwalys]

because the sens where a high scoring team right....

goals-for rank
Sens
#11 in 13-14 ek 74 pts
#9 in 14-15 ek 66 pts
#9 in 15-16 ek 82 pts
#22 16-17 ek 71 pts
#25 17-18 ek 62 pts

Sharks
#6 in 13-14
#15 14-15
#4 15-16
#19 16-17
#13 17-18

The Sharks are not a huge upgrade over the Sens in terms of goals-for, and the offense does not run entirely through Karlsson on the sharks, he is sharing the defensive driving with another superstar in Burns.
Also the Sharks have been on the road for 7 out of 10 games so far, mostly in the east. Karlsson in his career has been significantly better at home.

 

[RorschachWJK]

Unless you can provide links to those comments, I'm going to call you a bald-faced liar on that one!

You can call me whatever you like. It's there, do your own digging in the dozens and dozens of relevant threads.

 

[SjMilhouse]

He was pretty brutal last night...

 

[Helistin]

How many cups has he won?

If you don't know you can always look it up.

 

[Canada4Gold]

goals for a defenceman, and plus/minus.

Can you give me stats that actually matter instead?

 

[Masked]

You can call me whatever you like. It's there, do your own digging in the dozens and dozens of relevant threads.

I'm not the one making the claim or having to go search for something that doesn't exist. You're the one who needs to prove the existence of those comments. It would be like me claiming that you admitted to being a pedophile in various threads and when you ask me to back up those statements I tell you to dig them up yourself. Completely illogical.

 

[Semantics]

The Norris is for offense, you should stop talking about it. When was the last time someone won it for their defensive play?

 

[RorschachWJK]

I'm not the one making the claim or having to go search for something that doesn't exist. You're the one who needs to prove the existence of those comments. It would be like me claiming that you admitted to being a pedophile in various threads and when you ask me to back up those statements I tell you to dig them up yourself. Completely illogical.

I don't need to do anything. And I am not going to read that diarrhea again, once was enough. What you think about this is wholly irrelevant.

 

[Elitersson]

I don't need to do anything. And I am not going to read that diarrhea again, once was enough. What you think about this is wholly irrelevant.

In other words, it didn't actually happen

 

[RorschachWJK]

There is freedom of thought here, so you are free to think so.

 

[Future GOAT]

He's still adjusting to the new system, and the new players and their tendencies. Halfway through the season you guys will be talking about how dominant he's looking.

 

[DANTHEMAN1967]

SJ goalies post an 0.857 SV% with Karlsson on the ice, that's as unlucky as you can get

Or Karlsson is bad defensively which allows the opposition to get quality shots on goal which are more difficult for the goaltender to stop which leads to the goalie having a poor save percentage.

 

[CupsOverCash]

Takes a little while for D to adjust to new systems. He will be fine.

 

[DANTHEMAN1967]

New team, new system, lost his child, big behind the scenes drama, traded from his home since he was a teenager, moving to a new place and starting again where he does not know his coworkers yet.

All those circumstances lets see how you fair in your jobs and how quick you would adjust. 7 games people, 7 games.

Athletes aren't robots despite marketing suggesting otherwise.

It's been 12 games now.
How many games does he need to play poorly before these excuses are no longer valid so I'll know when to check back?

 

[NyQuil]

goals-for rank
Sens
#11 in 13-14 ek 74 pts
#9 in 14-15 ek 66 pts
#9 in 15-16 ek 82 pts
#22 16-17 ek 71 pts
#25 17-18 ek 62 pts

Sharks
#6 in 13-14
#15 14-15
#4 15-16
#19 16-17
#13 17-18

The Sharks are not a huge upgrade over the Sens in terms of goals-for, and the offense does not run entirely through Karlsson on the sharks, he is sharing the defensive driving with another superstar in Burns.
Also the Sharks have been on the road for 7 out of 10 games so far, mostly in the east. Karlsson in his career has been significantly better at home.

Plus he can't light it up against the Sharks the way he used to.

His 3rd favourite opponent in terms of points-per-game in the entire NHL.

 

[A1LeafNation]

On pace for 0 goal 48 assists and a -48

Looks a like a 7M x 5 year type player. Hopefully Tampa overpays for him.

 

[joe dirte]

I like my d men to actually play D and not be Forwards.

Well then the fact he's a pylon in his own zone should be concerning to you.

 

[qqaz]

There is freedom of thought here, so you are free to think so.

You lied. You got called out on being a liar. You can't just say "freedom of speech" and "believe what you want" to get out of the fact that everyone just read your blatant lies.

You claimed there were a lot of comments where people put Karlsson with or above Orr. Prove it. Burden of proof is on the prosectuion. You made the claim, so now you are responsible to prove it.

 

[joe dirte]

doesn't surprise me one bit. the only thing that surprises me is that Burns has kept a good pace.

 

[Gnashville]

How many cups has he won?

I know it’s sarcasm but
Brett Lebda has a Cup.

You lied. You got called out on being a liar. You can't just say "freedom of speech" and "believe what you want" to get out of the fact that everyone just read your blatant lies.

You claimed there were a lot of comments where people put Karlsson with or above Orr. Prove it. Burden of proof is on the prosectuion. You made the claim, so now you are responsible to prove it.

After he won his first Norris, on here there were all kinds of people claiming he’s better than Bobby Orr. The site has changed since then and those threads no longer exist.

Erik Karlsson is most game-changing defenseman since Bobby Orr