Stormbreaker
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Could be Cernak an elite Defensman?
HE is now playing very good game. Hard checking guy, many shots blocked and finally scored a goal. There is for sure a lot work in front, but the start is promising.
What should he need to add to his game, that we could him name as "elite Defensman"?
ive seen stages of a 20 year old doing things i have not seen from many defensive guys in years. I will not be surprised if he starts opening up even more and showing yep some very remarkable offensive instincts.... you want a rookie to come in and 100% own the defensive end. Cernak did that I think that is what he was asked to do. Now we have faith in him he is evolving imho.... I like his chances to be a 40-50 guy in the future. He is sooo powerful cant get him off the puck if he takes that to the net more often watch out. He also has the skills to make legit moves shots ive seen it..> Is like foote they told foote to just worry on defense first month he did what they asked now he is lighting it up. Expect same from cernak kid just has game...Elite offensively? No, he doesn't have the puck moving ability or creativity for that. Elite defenseman? Yes, look no further than his elite defensive partner. McDonagh produces some good offensive numbers but not anything that is going to blow you away. I think another comparison is Shea Weber, Cernak is Weber light. Josh Mason is another comparable.
Elite offensively? No, he doesn't have the puck moving ability or creativity for that. Elite defenseman? Yes, look no further than his elite defensive partner. McDonagh produces some good offensive numbers but not anything that is going to blow you away. I think another comparison is Shea Weber, Cernak is Weber light. Josh Mason is another comparable.
I think this is going a bit overboard, honestly. I don't know that his defense is ever going to get to a point where he can be considered a legit #2 or anything. I mean, he's not the mirage Jake Dotchin was, but let's not get carried away.
He looks like he belongs in the top-4, which has destroyed all expectations. But I think he's probably pretty close to fully developed. He's going to get smarter with experience, sure, but I think his skillset is already here.
I think this is going a bit overboard, honestly. I don't know that his defense is ever going to get to a point where he can be considered a legit #2 or anything. I mean, he's not the mirage Jake Dotchin was, but let's not get carried away.
He looks like he belongs in the top-4, which has destroyed all expectations. But I think he's probably pretty close to fully developed. He's going to get smarter with experience, sure, but I think his skillset is already here.
Which part is going overboard? I don't agree, I think you are tempering expectations to be on the safe side which is fine. But you are already labeling him as fully developed, Why? Defensemen don't show you what they are going to be until about 200 games at this level, he's barely hit 30. He's 21. He was impressive from game 1, but more than that, I can see the growth in his game offensively from what the little bit of time I seen him in Erie and Syracuse . He has the latent physical ability, and on a team with Hedman, McD, and Sergachev, how can he not pick up a few tricks?
His play to this date just reinforces what I thought I saw at his first training camp, he's a blossoming star. I don't know how he got labeled as slow, his acceleration and side to side speed for someone his side is impressive. Fan expectations will be weighed down by him not being picked on the first day, but look at his usage. A conservative coaching staff is throwing him out there in the highest leverage situations already and he's flourishing. By his teammates reaction to his goal you can tell he's someone who gets it inside the locker room. To say he won't make it as a #2 because of his defense, I don't understand that at all. Maybe offensively, but defensively he's been playing like our best defender more often than not.
I mean he's fully developed physically. Some defensemen (Aaron Ekblad) reach physical maturity early, so what you see becomes what you get. It's not like a Victor Hedman, where you have to wait for him to fill out, and also get smart enough to use his considerable physical tools.
I believe he'll get better, because experience will make him better. But I don't see him, for instance, getting faster than he is now. He'll learn to use his skillset better, for sure, but I don't see that getting him to Shea Weber light level.
I didn't mean he won't become a #2 because he's bad defensively. I mean, as good as he is defensively, I still don't see signs that he'll be a legit #2 based on his defense (because I don't think his offense is going to explode).
If you have any doubt what Coop thinks about Cernak, he played about 3 minutes in OT.
I think if you classified Cernak as a "PMD" in the classic definition, you wouldn't be wrong. He has a good first pass and is good at exiting the zone (that's how I view a "PMD"). However, if you're saying he lacks the offensive upside of Serge - I 100% agree. He's getting better and has good pinches, and his shot is pretty heavy, but I don't think he has the awareness in the offensive zone to create offense out of nothing, while Serge does.
Cernak is a guy who I think will be effective at taking advantage of what's there, but he's not going to make something appear that wasn't otherwise there (if that makes sense).
AND Sergachev makes a lot more bad decisions or is slow to react at times in the defensive end... that, to me, is where there is a major disparity between them. Sure, Sergachev is better offensively but Cernak is MUCH better defensively.Yes that makes sense, and I agree with all of this. Sergachev is constantly looking to create offense where as Cernak will make the smart, simple, yet still effective play. My distinction between them with respect to being a PMD is that Sergachev activates on the rush much more frequently and creates many more odd man rushes, where as Ryan McD is the guy in that pairing whom activates.