Value of: Eric Staal

[Tavares to Marner]

Weird how 8 months ago 1 year of JVR was worth a first, but 1 year of the vastly superior in every way Eric Staal isn't. I guess that's what happens when the self appointed sheriff of reality has never even sniffed reality.

Kinda like how 8 months ago somehow Patches was supposed to bring you guys a Top Center Prospect + 1st ? Hows that been for you so far anyway?

 

[justafan22]

He won't repeat his season again, and he's 33. He'll get a 1st + filler, but expecting a grand package like Karlsson, both being one year from UFA is lunacy.

 

[rent free]

Okay, so tell me: how is it that a 70pt center can’t be the missing piece to a contender. Literally every single playoff team could use Staal and his cap hit makes him the biggest bargain on the market driving up the cost to acquire him.

A 70 point player is someone who would be the teams best player. If a team is acquiring one of their best players at the deadline, they aren't really a contender

 

[Digitalbooya]

A 70 point player is someone who would be the teams best player. If a team is acquiring one of their best players at the deadline, they aren't really a contender

That’s not how that works and you know it.

 

[PerdFan]

I do think Staal could make a good fit for teams say like Nashville, Columbus or St Louis(ie teams looking for a center but are solid everywhere else)

Nashville has their center ice locked up long term plus plenty of spares to boot.

Johansen
Turris
Bonino
Sissons
Jarnkrok
Watson
Gaudreau

Preds have zero need for Staal. If this were 2015, maybe...

 

[boredmale]

Nashville has their center ice locked up long term plus plenty of spares to boot.

Johansen
Turris
Bonino
Sissons
Jarnkrok
Watson
Gaudreau

Preds have zero need for Staal. If this were 2015, maybe...

To me the main problem in Nashville is they lack that 1 truly elite forward, now Staal isn't it but hypothetically replace Bonino(trade) for Staal, that might help them a bit more going for a scoring by committee

 

[rent free]

Who are the contenders? Please state every single one of them.

pittsburgh Nashville Boston Winnipeg vegas Tampa bay

 

[rent free]

That’s not how that works and you know it.

Yes it is

 

[Digitalbooya]

Yes it is

You’re the only one that can turn acquiring a 70pt center into a bad thing. Oh, the other team has three 70pt players? Having a fourth would clearly be a bad thing and that team clearly isn’t a contender because having the guy whom placed 4th in the league in scoring and 26th in the league for points as one of your best players is such a bad, bad thing and contender should never actively seek good players as rentals because if they did then poof, they are no longer contenders and never were to begin with!

Wow! Listen to your logic at work here.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Washington.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I personally would do a 1st+ the problem is I don't know what the + is because I don't know what Minnesota needs if you need center prospects we can't help you, if you need winger prospects we got wingers coming out the ass, same with defense we just can't help you at center

 

[EastonBlues22]

Okay, so tell me: how is it that a 70pt center can’t be the missing piece to a contender. Literally every single playoff team could use Staal and his cap hit makes him the biggest bargain on the market driving up the cost to acquire him.

Devil's Advocate: Three points in his last fifteen playoff games the last three years, two of which were pretty darn good years in Minnesota, suggests that "missing piece" might be overstating his playoff impact somewhat.

You are right that most playoff teams would certainly be improved by having him, though, which kind of begs the question...why would Minnesota be moving him?

 

[Bazeek]

Devil's Advocate: Three points in his last fifteen playoff games the last three years, two of which were pretty darn good years in Minnesota, suggests that "missing piece" might be overstating his playoff impact somewhat.

You are right that most playoff teams would certainly be improved by having him, though, which kind of begs the question...why would Minnesota be moving him?

Realistically, they wouldn't.

Less realistically, for the same reason the Blues traded Stastny.

 

[EastonBlues22]

Realistically, they wouldn't.

Less realistically, for the same reason the Blues traded Stastny.

So this is really more of an exploration of a potential deadline deal (should things go poorly for Minnesota during the season), and not an offseason one?

That would make more sense to me, but it wasn't clear from the OP if that was the intent.

I'd guess his value at that time would largely depend on what sort of year he's having. I doubt he pots 40 goals again, but even a 20 goal pace is likely enough to garner the usual 1st + whatever type of deal should Minnesota shop him.

 

[Homesick]

Realistically, they wouldn't.

Less realistically, for the same reason the Blues traded Stastny.

Paul Statsny performs in the playoffs whereas Staal has struggled.
Does anyone really believe that Staal will hit 40g/70pts again? Would GM's value him as that? I don't think so

 

[Bazeek]

So this is really more of an exploration of a potential deadline deal (should things go poorly for Minnesota during the season), and not an offseason one?

That would make more sense to me, but it wasn't clear from the OP if that was the intent.

I'd guess his value at that time would largely depend on what sort of year he's having. I doubt he pots 40 goals again, but even a 20 goal pace is likely enough to garner the usual 1st + whatever type of deal should Minnesota shop him.

I couldn't speak for the OP, but in my mind the only semi-realistic way they trade Staal is as a deadline deal with the team floundering. And I'd agree, a 1st+something should be around the going rate.

I think some Wild fans are much more open to moving him in the offseason. I just don't see it really being considered based on what we've heard from the owner.

 

[Bazeek]

Paul Statsny performs in the playoffs whereas Staal has struggled.
Does anyone really believe that Staal will hit 40g/70pts again? Would GM's value him as that? I don't think so

My point is that the Blues moved Stastny, despite still being in the hunt for a playoff spot themselves, because they didn't think he'd be the difference between winning a cup and not winning a cup and they saw an opportunity to pick up something that they were missing: a 2018 1st. Whether or not what you say is true and Staal returns less, that doesn't mean a similar thought process wouldn't lead to the Wild trading him.

 

[Canes]

There are several teams who could use Staal. In the West alone, Sharks, Blues, Stars, maybe even Vegas and a few others too (among playoff/bubble teams). Will they give up the kind of value Minnesota would want? Probably not. Minnesota should probably keep him unless they get a crazy overpayment.

I miss Staal in Carolina but Minnesota is probably the perfect place for him as long they aren't rebuilding. Close to Thunder Bay, make the playoffs annually, he can center their top lines, etc.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

what would you give up for 40 goal scorer Eric Staal?

If a deal is to happen it will be for a 1st +. I don’t see many scenarios where we trade staal, however.

 

[SML2]

When the Rangers traded for him hoping to be a contender, he stunk worse than the portajohn at a Chili cookoff. He was horrible.

 

[Digitalbooya]

When the Rangers traded for him hoping to be a contender, he stunk worse than the portajohn at a Chili cookoff. He was horrible.

He’s a center, not a winger. That’s on the Rangers for being dumb.