GWT: EPL - Matchweek 5

[maclean]

They have an awful run of games soon. Don't see Poch surviving that.

I mean at some point they have to keep a coach around for longer than a couple months even if they're losing, because they're losing no matter the coach

 

[spintheblackcircle]

Watching a club play like this style is so fun, within 7 seconds:

Udogie forces a turnover, recovered by Hojbjerg who passes to Perisic, who gets it to Richarlison who sets up Kulusevski for the game winner.

 

[Corto]

Recruitment has been bad too for sure but they shouldn't be this bad.

I dunno.
Like I said, they overpaid for a bunch of overheyped young players.
I never expected them to be top-4 this season (though I guess it's top-5 now, with the new CL format from next season).
I don't think they're underachieving that much.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Recruitment has been bad too for sure but they shouldn't be this bad.

It's because Chelsea have no identity and it's normal when you have a 100% turnover of the team in a span of a year. They got too many players of similar profiles and age. They are building a team like you would in video games, I mean really they got 4 DMs? 2 of them at record beaking fees...

All their players are signed longterm so maybe they can 'afford' to throw away another season but they will need to have some consistency in their recruitement instead of getting every players available.

 

[HeHateMeFrisbee]

Recruitment has been bad too for sure but they shouldn't be this bad.

Let me preface this by saying I am loving watching the mess unfold there.

But, I don't know what Poch is supposed to do. The recruitment is so bananas there that all he can do is try to implement a system that he thinks is pragmatic and get through a rebuild. It's probably doomed to fail. I feel like right now Chelsea is a poison chalice and without a real change in how the recruitment works they will continue to be what they currently are regardless of who the manager is.

 

[bleedblue1223]

At a minimum, Poch could utilitize the system that he did in pre-season. He'd argue he is, but playing a natural CB at LB, instead of a natural LB completely neuters our attacking strategy from pre-season. At this point, the current system isn't working. Take Disasi out, move Colwill to LCB, and Chilwell to LB. Play one of the wingers on the bench up top with Sterling. At least attempt to do what we did in pre-season.

Our main problem, we lack players with the ability to create and finish in the final 3rd, at least to do it consistently, and when the opposition sits back. It's why we are able to technically create chances and shots, but when you look at each individual shot/chance, the timing is off or the final touch is off.

It's kind of pathetic that our offense is probably solely dependent on a guy that has never played a minute outside of pre-season.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

Let me preface this by saying I am loving watching the mess unfold there.

But, I don't know what Poch is supposed to do. The recruitment is so bananas there that all he can do is try to implement a system that he thinks is pragmatic and get through a rebuild. It's probably doomed to fail. I feel like right now Chelsea is a poison chalice and without a real change in how the recruitment works they will continue to be what they currently are regardless of who the manager is.

Pochettino should absolutely not be without blame. Once again, they supposedly had the easiest first five games in the league. And they only managed to get five points. Their squad is absolutely not that bad, even with all the injuries (which Pochettino may very well be causing himself with his sessions).

 

[robertmac43]

Poch has to make it to at least November.... There s no way they can go and fire another manager early in the season.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Barring a complete disaster, I imagine he'll at least get some time with Nkunku healthy. It's pathetic that our attack is basically dependent on him.

 

[hatterson]

So have we moved on from Sterling being amazing yet? Or still gonna give it a few more games?

 

[Chimaera]

The idea that you'd throw Poch out at this point is pretty absurd.

Most of their buys this summer were to build a long term project. If you're not going to give him time to do that, why in the world would you hire him to begin with? I could see it if say, someone better was around to hire to do everything, but at this point in the season, let it ride.

The trouble is going to be what happens if they don't make CL or they don't show improvement. At some point I guess they will have to pull the plug, but it's pretty ridiculous.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

At this point, I hope they don’t get the transfer ban.

 

[maclean]

At this point, I hope they don’t get the transfer ban.

Like because it would actually help them?

 

[Chimaera]

At this point, I hope they don’t get the transfer ban.

They'll find someway around it.

 

[LOGiK]

So have we moved on from Sterling being amazing yet? Or still gonna give it a few more games?

He is not the one. England even dropped him.

Doku looked good... kind of mesmerized the defender watching his legs stepping like that repeatedly ((on his goal)). Big improvement from the first game.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Like because it would actually help them?

No, we'd obviously f*** it up even worse. Probably throw 80M at Toney, and when he doesn't work, throw 150M at Ferguson.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

Like because it would actually help them?

100%. Just let them be, Boehly and co will just get in their own way. Hope he spends them into administration.

 

[robertmac43]

Any news on Caicedo's injury?

Sucks to see him hurt after the lacklustre start. He was an iron man during his time at Brighton.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Any news on Caicedo's injury?

Sucks to see him hurt after the lacklustre start. He was an iron man during his time at Brighton.

Just that he hurt his knee on international duty.

 

[Chimaera]

So have we moved on from Sterling being amazing yet? Or still gonna give it a few more games?

I don't think Sterling is amazing, but he's a pro, who knows what he is, and can help a team. But City are not stupid and would not have sold him if he was still really valuable.

 

[robertmac43]

Just that he hurt his knee on international duty.

Hopefully it's not long term. I hate Chelsea but I want Caicedo to do well.

 

[Chimaera]

At this point, I hope they don’t get the transfer ban.

Expanding on it, it would be somewhat funny to see them try and spend another 500 million next window.

 

[LOGiK]

I don't think Sterling is amazing, but he's a pro, who knows what he is, and can help a team. But City are not stupid and would not have sold him if he was still really valuable.

He's good but he's not the player I'd pick to have for a club in Chelsea's specific situation.

 

[maclean]

No, we'd obviously f*** it up even worse. Probably throw 80M at Toney, and when he doesn't work, throw 150M at Ferguson.

Yeah no, that's what I meant, the ban would help them.

Hopefully it's not long term. I hate Chelsea but I want Caicedo to do well.

They called it a "knock", so doesn't sound entirely serious. I liked the player but I feel like we would've been a better place for him to develop, so it's hard to want him to do well with Chelsea.

 

[HeHateMeFrisbee]

Pochettino should absolutely not be without blame. Once again, they supposedly had the easiest first five games in the league. And they only managed to get five points. Their squad is absolutely not that bad, even with all the injuries (which Pochettino may very well be causing himself with his sessions).

Sure, he deserves some blame for the results. But it's beyond injuries. My point was more that the club lacks cohesiveness and that is due to the owners haphazard transfer policy and staffing upheaval