GWT: EPL - Matchweek 28 (ft. MW 17)

[bluesfan94]

Two Arsenal players sprint at the official to scream about a pen. Ref just shrugs and doesn’t card anyway.

Tell me more about how refs will start awarding blue cards for dissent.

I don't know why this blue card thing has gotten in people's heads so much as though it isn't something that is about to be trialed in like the fourth division in Wales.

 

[JPBolts]

Two Arsenal players sprint at the official to scream about a pen. Ref just shrugs and doesn’t card anyway.

Tell me more about how refs will start awarding blue cards for dissent.

one of them already on a yellow as well. same thing for the other "penalty" claim

 

[hatterson]

I don't know why this blue card thing has gotten in people's heads so much as though it isn't something that is about to be trialed in like the fourth division in Wales.

Because you have real people who actually have influence at IFAB and FIFA who think it will work.

Refs have more than enough tools to deal with dissent right now and they refuse to use them. Discussion about giving them more tools are stupid.

 

[al secord]

Roerslev's hockey hair is glorious

 

[bluesfan94]

Toney was probably upset at Gabriel there because he had Gabriel scoring a goal on his bet sheet today.

 

[hatterson]

Havertz, already on a yellow, takes a ball from off the pitch and places it on the pitch to delay a throw. Ref just shrugs.

 

[Epictetus]

There's gotta be like another 5 minutes added on here, no?

 

[al secord]

Odergaard miraculously makes it off the field without falling.

 

[bluesfan94]

one of them already on a yellow as well. same thing for the other "penalty" claim

He's been consistent, at least, given that Collins wasn't booked for calling for a card. Of course, the yellow Gabriel was on was for a foul softer than penalties that weren't given.

Because you have real people who actually have influence at IFAB and FIFA who think it will work.

Refs have more than enough tools to deal with dissent right now and they refuse to use them. Discussion about giving them more tools are stupid.

Sure, although the argument could be that a different tool would be more effective. I just don't think it's worth getting upset about or making fun of until it gets out of the lowest levels. Honestly, at those levels, it actually might be useful.

 

[phisherman]

Havertz, already on a yellow, takes a ball from off the pitch and places it on the pitch to delay a throw. Ref just shrugs.

Yea but playing with Havertz playing it's already having a man down because he does absolutely nothing anyways apparently

 

[Spring in Fialta]

LOL at Arteta feigning surprise that the game isn't over yet.

 

[maclean]

It's premature to say we fixed Havertz, but maybe we fixed Havertz?

 

[bluesfan94]

UTA

 

[hatterson]

Sure, although the argument could be that a different tool would be more effective. I just don't think it's worth getting upset about or making fun of until it gets out of the lowest levels. Honestly, at those levels, it actually might be useful.

It probably wouldn’t be as much of a joke if year after year we hear about how referees are going to really crack down on dissent, time wasting, and diving and then having them repeatedly ignore it happening in game after game.

A blue card is more severe than a yellow card, there’s no rational argument that refs would suddenly start handing out more severe punishments for behavior they’re not punishing now.

 

[Savant]

Cannot wait for all the outrage and media coverage on that officiating performance today. Worse and more impactful than Tierney last weekend when all we heard about was drop balls for days.

 

[robertmac43]

Kai proving he was worth every penny!

 

[cgf]

So Kai just isn't going to stop scoring, huh?

Didn't realize EPL defenses were that bad.

 

[bluesfan94]

It probably wouldn’t be as much of a joke if year after year we hear about how referees are going to really crack down on dissent, time wasting, and diving and then having them repeatedly ignore it happening in game after game.

A blue card is more severe than a yellow card, there’s no rational argument that refs would suddenly start handing out more severe punishments for behavior they’re not punishing now.

That’s my point. More severe might actually work at a lower level. I don’t think it’s actually getting to the top flight.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Honest question, if Arsenal does not win anything this year, is it considered a deception or a step forward?

 

[hatterson]

Honest question, if Arsenal does not win anything this year, is it considered a deception or a step forward?

I think it depends on how the end of the season goes. If they continue playing solid and fall a point or two shy, it’ll rightly be considered a step forward.

If they collapse at the end of the season again, they’ll be questions asked.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

I don't think Havertz was all that today but overall he's def adding more credence to the 'Leave Chelsea and do much better' thingy

 

[hatterson]

I don't think Havertz was all that today but overall he's def adding more credence to the 'Leave Chelsea and do much better' thingy

TBH he doesn’t look that different. He still kills a ton of attacks and misses a ton of chances, he’s just surrounded by a way better attacking system in Arsenal.

 

[Savant]

Honest question, if Arsenal does not win anything this year, is it considered a deception or a step forward?

Neither. It’s a disappointment if they win nothing. They spent too much to come about with nothing. They are where they should be, them being strong isn’t a surprise. If anything it’s a surprise they aren’t higher, but they’ve had a lot of luck and they’ve played a lot of teams at the right time too. And again they are the media darlings. They will have the narrative that it’s another gutsy win, which fair play to get it done but Havertz dived worse than Diogo Jota against Newcastle and at a more important juncture, but we won’t hear a peep on that and there isn’t any pearl clutching either compared to what we’ve seen. Very strange to me the perception of the Arsenal team compared to the perception of Man City and LFC

 

[IU Hawks fan]

And again they are the media darlings.

The lack of self awareness never fails.

 

[al secord]

TBH he doesn’t look that different. He still kills a ton of attacks and misses a ton of chances, he’s just surrounded by a way better attacking system in Arsenal.

He was the main reason why the game was even close.