GWT: English Premier League Round 4

[Jussi]

50/50 ball. Mane 1v1 with keeper. The both go for the ball. Since it's outside of the box Ederson leads with his head. Mane only has eyes for the ball as well and has his leg up. Mane doesn't see Ederson. Mane's foot meets Ederson's head. I thought it would have been a yellow if Ederson didn't get rocked but it certainly wasn't evil. The ref doesn't need to protect the keeper like that ifs it's out of the box.

It's still reckless to not pay attention to your surroundings and go in with your foot that high.

 

[hatterson]

It's still reckless to not pay attention to your surroundings and go in with your foot that high.

Does reckless, but unintentional, get more than 3 games becuase of an injury though?

 

[Savant]

It's still reckless to not pay attention to your surroundings and go in with your foot that high.

Gary Neville doesn't think it's a red either.

It's reckless from both players. Ederson wasn't paying attention either. Both only had eyes for the ball. If it's in the box that's a red everytime.

Outside the box I don't think that the forward should have to pull up in that situation because the keeper is going in head first.

 

[Adonis Creed]

Clear red...see ya later Mane

 

[Jussi]

Does reckless, but unintentional, get more than 3 games becuase of an injury though?

We'll see what happens.

Kind of reminds me of the Nani sending off in the UCL some years back, though his situation didn't result in an injury for the opposing player. Back then most people thought a yellow would have sufficed instead of a straight red.

 

[Loopy0ne]

Right or wrong, the game being an actual competition is over. Thanks ref, I'll get some sleep now.

 

[hatterson]

Yea just saw the replay for the first time. That's a red 100% of the time no matter where on the pitch it is.

Don't think it's worth an additional suspension beyond the 3 games though.

 

[East Coast Bias]

Came for the delusion, not disappointed.

He went studs out, both feet off the ground, with neck level kick.

Doesn't matter if he's trying to play the ball or where he was looking. That was dangerous as hell. Looking like Cantona out there.

 

[Prntscrn]

Don't think it's worth an additional suspension beyond the 3 games though.

Maybe, maybe not. For sure something FA will take a look at. It's not like Ederson is particallary low with his head either. Fast pace, second in to the situation, bottom of the boot to the chin. Wouldn't be surprised if it ends up being more than 3 games

 

[bleedblue1223]

That's not even the ref protecting the keeper, that play on any other player would've resulted in a red.

 

[Prntscrn]

Smart move resting Salah. Hopefully Firmino will get rested aswell

 

[Savant]

Came for the delusion, not disappointed.

He went studs out, both feet off the ground, with neck level kick.

Doesn't matter if he's trying to play the ball or where he was looking. That was dangerous as hell. Looking like Cantona out there.

He's outside the box so I think it's yellow. If it's inside the box it's red, so I'm not going to argue to hard against it. No anti-ref crusade, just my opinion.

It's terrible that Ederson got hurt. Anything more than 3 games though would be a joke though.

 

[Adonis Creed]

Ox on for Salah, Klopp going for players experienced in getting hammerings.

 

[hatterson]

He's outside the box so I think it's yellow. If it's inside the box it's red, so I'm not going to argue to hard against it. No anti-ref crusade, just my opinion.

It's terrible that Ederson got hurt. Anything more than 3 games though would be a joke though.

He literally went full speed jumping studs into a players chin. That's a red no matter where it happens.

Obviously it wasn't intentional, but it's clearly incredibly reckless and deserves a red.

 

[Blender]

That Mane red clearly wasn't intentional, but you still don't go around with your boot at head height. He kicked him in the head, good call.

 

[Savant]

He literally went full speed jumping studs into a players chin. That's a red no matter where it happens.

Obviously it wasn't intentional, but it's clearly incredibly reckless and deserves a red.

I don't agree and that's okay.

Ederson comes off his line recklessly and aggressively which is his style but he put himself in danger and he got caught.

Does Mane not have a right to go for that ball?

 

[Adonis Creed]

I don't agree and that's okay.

Ederson comes off his line recklessly and aggressively which is his style but he put himself in danger and he got caught.

Does Mane not have a right to go for that ball?

He has the right..not with stud up first at head height...if he try to attempt an header there hell get nothing or a yellow...

that challenge was stupid as hell

 

[hatterson]

I don't agree and that's okay.

Ederson comes off his line recklessly and aggressively which is his style but he put himself in danger and he got caught.

Does Mane not have a right to go for that ball?

Not with his studs up like that, no he absolutely doesn't have the right to go for the ball.

Ederson wasn't reckless in coming off, he was aggressive. There's a massive difference.

 

[Blender]

I don't agree and that's okay.

Ederson comes off his line recklessly and aggressively which is his style but he put himself in danger and he got caught.

Does Mane not have a right to go for that ball?

Of course he has a right to go for that ball. He doesn't have a right to do a flying leg kick like that though. If he had just collided with him by trying for the ball, this is a completely different call, but he kicked him in the face/neck. That's reckless and he needs to control himself better than that. Should be an automatic call every time anywhere on the pitch against any player.

 

[HoseEmDown]

A keeper 25 yards from his goal line shouldn't be playing the ball with his head. If that's in the box and he gets a stud that high then sure but coming out like that to play a header is just as reckless as Mane playing his boot that high.

 

[Blender]

A keeper 25 yards from his goal line shouldn't be playing the ball with his head. If that's in the box and he gets a stud that high then sure but coming out like that to play a header is just as reckless as Mane playing his boot that high.

Ederson coming way out to play a ball is not as reckless as jumping through the air with your studs up at head height.

 

[Savant]

Of course he has a right to go for that ball. He doesn't have a right to do a flying leg kick like that though. If he had just collided with him by trying for the ball, this is a completely different call, but he kicked him in the face/neck. That's reckless and he needs to control himself better than that. Should be an automatic call every time anywhere on the pitch against any player.

Mane is 5'8". Ederson is 6'3" and leading with his head. Mane doesn't see him. Where is Mane supposed to put his leg? That's why it's head height. Let's not pretend Ederson got karate kicked.

 

[East Coast Bias]

He's outside the box so I think it's yellow. If it's inside the box it's red, so I'm not going to argue to hard against it. No anti-ref crusade, just my opinion.

It's terrible that Ederson got hurt. Anything more than 3 games though would be a joke though.

I agree re 3 games. He's not trying to injure him - no need for a longer ban.

 

[Blender]

Mane is 5'8". Ederson is 6'3" and leading with his head. Mane doesn't see him. Where is Mane supposed to put his leg? That's why it's head height. Let's not pretend Ederson got karate kicked.

He's not supposed to put his leg that high in the air. It's against the rules, plain and simple. Incredibly reckless play by Mane and a deserved red.

 

[Savant]

He's not supposed to put his leg that high in the air. It's against the rules, plain and simple. Incredibly reckless play by Mane and a deserved red.

He has a right to the ball. Mane has to put his leg up to play the ball. Ederson was equally reckless and he got hurt.