Elite Players With The Most Drive...

[GlitchMarner]

Which elite players have had the most drive to be the best?

Gretzky comes to mind. He was essentially obsessed with being the best player he could be and/or the best in the game.

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[Filthy Dangles]

Sidney Crsoby

 

[Normand Lacombe]

Patrick Roy

 

[scott clam]

Gordie Howe

 

[streitz]

Well to be elite you need drive period.



Weird question

 

[Nick Hansen]

Peter Forsberg truly gave it all, sometimes to the detriment of his health, I think.

 

[DDRhockey]

Peter Forsberg truly gave it all, sometimes to the detriment of his health, I think.

Yup 30+ surgeries in his career

 

[Troubadour]

Yup 30+ surgeries in his career

"It was not an easy decision," Forsberg said in announcing his retirement for the second time. "Throughout my career I had 25 surgeries and I promised my fiancée Nicole [Nordin] that I would not put my health at risk anymore."

 

[Nick Hansen]

Yeah, still he can look back at his career knowing he gave it all and that he played as much and as good as possible. He didn't leave anything on the table. Must be satisfying. I bet there are quite a few players who reflect on their career thinking they could've done more in various ways.

Some other Swedes would be Alfredsson, Zetterberg and Lidstrom. Tons of drive.

 

[The Panther]

I guess the more interesting question would be which elite-level players lacked drive...

 

[DDRhockey]

So? 25 is still a lot.

 

[Troubadour]

So? 25 is still a lot.

Why exaggerate it then. 25 is 25. History board. Alright?

 

[GlitchMarner]

I guess the more interesting question would be which elite-level players lacked drive...

I'm not asking which elite players had drive (obviously they all do/did.) I'm asking about the most drive. It's like asking who has the best stickhandling, shooting, passing, hockey IQ etc out of the elite.

 

[blood gin]

I guess the more interesting question would be which elite-level players lacked drive...

Pierre Turgeon

 

[streitz]

I'm not asking which elite players had drive (obviously they all do/did.) I'm asking about the most drive. It's like asking who has the best stickhandling, shooting, passing, hockey IQ etc out of the elite.

How do you determine this though? What analysis into the psyche of star players determines drive?


Do you have another method? Another way?

 

[The Panther]

Pierre Turgeon

Not to disagree with you, but I mean, how do you know that? The guy played 19 seasons, scored 1327 points, and at least in terms of production lived up to his 1st-overall status. How do you know he lacked drive?

 

[blood gin]

Well to be elite you need drive period.



Weird question

I think he probably means elite talent. To some people the game comes easier to them but they don't love the game and have the same passion for winning as lesser talented players.

 

[blood gin]

Not to disagree with you, but I mean, how do you know that? The guy played 19 seasons, scored 1327 points, and at least in terms of production lived up to his 1st-overall status. How do you know he lacked drive?

I don't. I'm just speculating from what I saw. Only he knows when he gave his all, when his heart was not in it, when his passion started to wane (if it ever did) but yea it's possible to score 1327 points and still be left with a feeling he could've been more. That's how I look at Kovalev. 430 goals and 1000 points. But he could've been better the way I see it.

I look at guys like Wendel Clark. Andreychuk, Ken Linseman, Bob Gainey. They got every last drop out of their careers. Not sure those other guys did

 

[sr edler]

Didn't Brett Hull, at least in his junior career, have a bigger drive towards the buffet table than the hockey rink?

Also Mario with his smoking and the fact that he never came across as a gym rat.

 

[streitz]

I'm pretty sure Vincent Lecavalier has a massive car collection, that would give him alot of drive.

 

[VMBM]

Teemu Selänne deserves a mention. Always seemed to come back from injuries, sometimes really serious ones. Played until his mid-40s.

 

[streitz]

Teemu Selänne deserves a mention. Always seemed to come back from injuries, sometimes really serious ones. Played until his mid-40s.

Not to mention he got in trouble for street racing in finland back roads, takes alot of horsepower and drive to do that too.

 

[GlitchMarner]

I don't. I'm just speculating from what I saw. Only he knows when he gave his all, when his heart was not in it, when his passion started to wane (if it ever did) but yea it's possible to score 1327 points and still be left with a feeling he could've been more. That's how I look at Kovalev. 430 goals and 1000 points. But he could've been better the way I see it.

I look at guys like Wendel Clark. Andreychuk, Ken Linseman, Bob Gainey. They got every last drop out of their careers. Not sure those other guys did

In terms of points per game, Turgeon is ahead of Bure, Messier, Robitaille, Mogilny, Fedorov, Francis, Fleury, Recchi, Sundin, Gilmour, Roenick and Modano and just barely behind Yzerman, Kariya and Oates between 1989-1990 and 2000-2001.

I'm sure he had a lot of drive when it comes to producing offense - maybe when it came to defending he was lacking drive. Certainly he's not known for his physicality.

 

[ted2019]

Robert Earl Clarke

 

[streitz]

In terms of points per game, Turgeon is ahead of Bure, Messier, Robitaille, Mogilny, Fedorov, Francis, Fleury, Recchi, Sundin, Gilmour, Roenick and Modano and just barely behind Yzerman, Kariya and Oates between 1989-1990 and 2000-2001.

I'm sure he had a lot of drive when it comes to producing offense - maybe when it came to defending he was lacking drive. Certainly he's not known for his physicality.

Neither is Gretzky, would you say #99 lacked drive?