Elias Pettersson and the quiet top 5 potential

Chimpradamus

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I know, it might be ridiculous to claim he will be a top 5 player in a short time, but the game this scrawny kid puts on is simply put ridiculous. He's not that strong yet and bigger players can push him away if he's not ready for it, but he has developed a technique to use his ass to face it alot more often after his rookie season. The Jagr move.

So, which are his qualities? Well, to start off with, his shot is sublime, regardless of selection. His slap shot, one timer, snap shot, wrist shot, backhand, rebounds, all of it is world class in both power and especially in accuracy. Many players match him or are even better in a specific type, but Pettersson can do them all, which is very rare today. If you don't believe me, watch his goals, they're all over youtube.

His skating, agility, edgework, acceleration, all of it is again sublime. Stickhandling, deking, vision, all of it, he can deke like the best already and make crazy passes, while being very mature mentally for his age. His passion to become as good as he can be has always been there. He spoke of being a hockey player as his job 2-3 years ago and that's why he doesn't celebrate that often. It's his job to pour in points and it's expected of him. And his footwork to stick moves to control the puck, extremely impressive, creative - and his small signature hook on his passes is very distinctive.

This is the video I would choose to present it. Not his highlight goals or other highlights, but the things that don't end up int he highlights that make Canucks fans stand up from their seats on almost every shift. He can always beat guys one on one and during the right circumstances, he can beat three players when he is allowed space.



What speaks against Pettersson not being a top 5 NHL player soon? He was taught to play center when he entered the NHL (before that he was a winger) and he already does this two years in. All he lacks is physicality, although he still battles. He's great, excellent or sublime in all other aspects. He even shuts down journalists when they're asking too stupid questions, at his age.

He's not as explosive as McDavid and as physical as McKinnon, but he has a better shot variety in all situations. He can skate and deke like Barzal. He matches Matthews in the snap shot department, he matches Laine in the wrist shot department. He can shoot one timers just as well as Ovechkin - over even better.

And he still takes a big defensive responsibility as a center and serves marvelous saucers and passes no one else sees - and he's just heating up. This is the guy I would vouch to become a really complete hockey player in the next century.

And here's the biggest thing why I'm such a fan of Pettersson: He's so goddamn creative on the ice. He doesn't follow plays, he invents plays on the go. The point is, he's so damn versatile and strong in so many areas. He's not a specialist, yet excels in so many areas he should only be good at as a specialist.
 
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Merrrlin

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Quiet?

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I honestly don't think any player outside Matthews, Point (recently) and maybe Eichel gets talked about more on this forum.
 

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Just don't say his skating stride or wind-up mechanics even remotely resemble Wayne or you're gonna get pitchforked/torched.
 

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Hes already the best of all time, and its not even close. If he was playing in gretz era he would score 500 points a season.
 

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I seem him as a perennial 80-90+ point player with a couple 100 point seasons thrown in
It's not the points I'm discussing, he will produce points, it's his impact on his shifts where he can contribute in so many ways. He plays for Vancouver. It's a bubble team in the best of worlds, yet he boosts them alot. If Pettersson would've been drafted on a better team, his points would be greater.
I'm not a pure Canucks fan, don't worry about your fan base reputation. I'm a hockey fan. His support in some players is there, but it's very hollow.

Give it two years and #40 will be retired league-wide.
That's the spirit, rofl!
 
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I'm not sure I really agree that he has top 5 potential but I wouldn't call anything about him at this point quiet. He's widely considered a franchise talent superstar and he's reached the upper echelon of "guy people think it's brave to say is better than Auston Matthews" so he's basically already considered as good as any C after McDavid/Crosby/MacKinnon.
 
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"he matches Laine in the wrist shot department. He can shoot one timers just as well as Ovechkin - over even better." :D
About Laine's shot: no problem, he's just as good at the wrist shot, no questions asked. Matthews and McKinnon at their snap shots: Pettersson's worse, but not by much. About Ovechkin's one timer: surely not as powerful, but he's already reaching his accuracy and already a huge threat on the PP, to the extent that PK units facing Vancouver put basically all their efforts into shutting down Pettersson. But Pettersson doesn't have an elite playmaker to help him out - he's the playmaker and the shooter.
 
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About Laine's shot: no problem, he's just as good at the wrist shot, no questions asked. Matthews and McKinnon at their snap shots: Pettersson's worse, but not by much. About Ovechkin's one timer: surely not as powerful, but he's already reaching his accuracy and already a huge threat on the PP, to the extent that PK units facing Vancouver put basically all their efforts into shutting down Pettersson. But Pettersson doesn't have an elite playmaker to help him out - he's the playmaker and the shooter.



PM me when Pettersson scores wrist shots like this from that far out. Don't get me wrong, i know how good Pettersson is, but he don't match Laine when it come's to wrist shots.
 

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PM me when Pettersson scores wrist shots like this from that far out

Ok, sure, Pettersson doesn't have that kind of range yet, I overhyped it. If I can put it this way then, he's not better than anybody in a specific shot, but he's sniffing the trail of every master of every category of a shot type. That's the thing that is so impressive about his shot range. He can take any kind of shot with great quality and that's not common at all. And he was still drafted for his playmaking.
 
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Ok, sure, Pettersson doesn't have that kind of range yet, I overhyped it. If I can put it this way then, he's not better than anybody in a specific shot, but he's sniffing the trail of every master of every category of a shot type. That's the thing that is so impressive about his shot range. He can take any kind of shot with great quality and that's not common at all. And he was still drafted for his playmaking.
Still havent seen him pot wristers even remotely close to that far out so idk how he's supposed to be so close to on the same level, close range though he is supergood with wristers i'll give him that. He reminds me alot of Barkov with his deeking.
 

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Still havent seen him pot wristers even remotely close to that far out so idk how he's supposed to be so close to on the same level, close range though he is supergood with wristers i'll give him that. He reminds me alot of Barkov with his deeking.
How about the 5-5 game tying goal against Colorado? Pretty nasty wrister if you ask me:


He also have some pretty brutal wristers against Nashville, Washington and Carolina. Not only hard shots, but deadly accurate. But sure, not as far out, so he doesn't have that range power - yet.
 

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I think he'll quietly be a very good player for a long time, and have a year where he goes lights out and brings home a Hart or Pearson
 

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How about the 5-5 game tying goal against Colorado? Pretty nasty wrister if you ask me:

Very nice yes, not too far out and had the goalie suprised though. When he starts beating goalies from far out clean with wristers then maybe you can start saying he's on Laine's level, untill then i rest my case.
 

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Very nice yes, not too far out and had the goalie suprised though. When he starts beating goalies from far out clean with wristers then maybe you can start saying he's on Laine's level, untill then i rest my case.

Ok, sure, but that still doesn't get us anywhere. I already admitted I overhyped his shot and that he probably doesn't beat any of the absolute best yet in any specific shot. Most have shot types they never try, because they suck at it. Laine, McKinnon, Matthews, Ovechkin, etc. But if you combine all shot types to score goals in all kinds of variations, he pretty much beats them all if you add the threat of every shot type together. All of his competitors are masters at one or two shot types. Pettersson is extremely good at all of them. The reason I get so hyped is because of his goddamn accuracy on his shots, in all types. He roofs or pings most shots, with alot of power, most from shooting technique. It's ridiculous.

But, he's not a sniper, he's a playmaker/ sniper/ two-way center. So he will probably never win a Rocket trophy. That's what it's about. He's sniffing absolute world class in so many categories except physicality and defense (where he's only really good). You can't as an opponent expect what the heck he will do.
 
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