Proposal: Edmonton - Montreal

[TT1]

easy pass

 

[Mersss]

Lekhonen’s not a sure fire anything his career high is 28 points and he only managed 21 last year. I get why you might not want to do this but pump the brakes a bit.

I don’t see anything that would be on the table from Montreal that would be even remotely interesting if Lekhonen is considered too much.

Again, why would we trade a known commodity for a "prospect" that MAY end up similar/better then Lehkonen whitout having anything else enticing in the deal?

As long as Pulj doesn't step up his game, you'll get another struggling prospect for him, nothing more!

 

[GOilers88]

Don't understand why Habs would take all the risk here. Lehkonen is a sure fire 40pts+ a season, who's 2way game is great.

Heck he's got 16pts this year and he could EASILY be @ the 10-12goal mark if he was just a tad more lucky...

I'd like Puljarvi, in a "Change of air" kinda deal, but not in a deal where we are sending a good, young, known commodity for a younger commodity thats is trending to the "BUST" status faster than Usain Bolt on a 100m track!

How is a guy who has never put up 40 points in a season a "sure fire 40+ point player"? His career best is 28.
I'm seeing this shit everywhere and it's ridiculous.

Lekhonen has 65 points in 165 career games. JP has 31 in 111. The difference really isn't drastic as both are young players. JP is starting to hit his stride after having clear issues with his first coach. This is a lateral move at best, and the Oilers lose because JP will move to another team and break out. Both teams stay the course, but quit trying to act like Lehkonen is some.world beater in comparison.

 

[Mersss]

How is a guy who has never put up 40 points in a season a "sure fire 40+ point player"? His career best is 29.
I'm seeing this **** everywhere and it's ridiculous.

Lekhonen has 65 points in 165 career games. JP has 31 in 111. The difference really isn't drastic as both are young players. JP is starting to hit his stride after having clear issues with his first coach. This is a lateral move at best, and the Oilers lose because JP will move to another team and break out. Both teams stay the course, but quit trying to act like Lehkonen is some.world beater in comparison.

You do realize Lehkonen hasn't reached his offensive potential yet? You're just assuming that's the best he can do... He's been playing with S*** center for his whole career as of now, and has been so unlucky this year you wouldn't believe it. The guy could easily have 25pts already if he was just a tad more lucky putting the puck in the net instead of hitting the post!

Lehkonen 0,39ppg playing with Danult and some other 3-4th liners

Vs

Puljuarvi 0,27 PPG

 

[GOilers88]

Again, why would we trade a known commodity for a "prospect" that MAY end up similar/better then Lehkonen whitout having anything else enticing in the deal?

As long as Pulj doesn't step up his game, you'll get another struggling prospect for him, nothing more!

I think you'll find most intelligent Oiler fans wouldnt want to do this swap either. Not because AL isn't good,but because JP still has plenty of time and potential to be the better player.

Anyone that wants to call JP Yakupov 2.0 is intentionally being an idiot. Same goes for anyone saying he's a bust as a recently turned 20 year old kid.

 

[GOilers88]

You do realize Lehkonen hasn't reached his offensive potential yet? You're just assuming that's the best he can do... He's been playing with S*** center for his whole career as of now, and has been so unlucky this year you wouldn't believe it. The guy could easily have 25pts already if he was just a tad more lucky putting the puck in the net instead of hitting the post!

Lehkonen 0,39ppg playing with Danult and some other 3-4th liners

Vs

Puljuarvi 0,27 PPG

All the points you use to prop Lehkonen up you ignore for JP. By your apparent argument here, you think the 23 year old who has put up modest numbers has more potential to grow than the 20 year old top five pick who has played less games in the league with even less ice time with even lesser linemates. Trying to use luck as a measure of potential tial is pretty disengenious too. Lucic could probably have about 20 goals over the last 100 games with better luck on bounces. That holds no water at all


It goes both ways. But that's pretty obvious.

 

[Mersss]

All the points you use to prop Lehkonen up you ignore for JP. By your apparent argument here, you think the 23 year old who has put up modest numbers has more potential to grow than the 20 year old top five pick who has played less games in the league with even less ice time with even lesser linemates. Trying to use luck as a measure of potential tial is pretty disengenious too. Lucic could probably have about 20 goals over the last 100 games with better luck on bounces. That holds no water at all


It goes both ways. But that's pretty obvious.

Jesse has been giving the chance to play with far better linemates, and hasn't been able to produce at a similar pace to Lehkonen.

Again, i'm not saying EDM should do it, but it's just the kind of trade no GM would do ATM

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Again, why would we trade a known commodity for a "prospect" that MAY end up similar/better then Lehkonen whitout having anything else enticing in the deal?

As long as Pulj doesn't step up his game, you'll get another struggling prospect for him, nothing more!

He HAS stepped up his game. That’s what I’ve been telling you.

Strome and a guy that’s done nothing as a Hawk returned an excellent young 2C. Puljujarvi has plenty of value; Montreal just doesn’t have anything enticing that the fans would move.

 

[ole ole]

How is a guy who has never put up 40 points in a season a "sure fire 40+ point player"? His career best is 28.
I'm seeing this **** everywhere and it's ridiculous.

Lekhonen has 65 points in 165 career games. JP has 31 in 111. The difference really isn't drastic as both are young players. JP is starting to hit his stride after having clear issues with his first coach. This is a lateral move at best, and the Oilers lose because JP will move to another team and break out. Both teams stay the course, but quit trying to act like Lehkonen is some.world beater in comparison.

Post 18 .That guy gets it.

 

[Captain Mountain]

How is a guy who has never put up 40 points in a season a "sure fire 40+ point player"? His career best is 28.
I'm seeing this **** everywhere and it's ridiculous.

Lekhonen has 65 points in 165 career games. JP has 31 in 111. The difference really isn't drastic as both are young players. JP is starting to hit his stride after having clear issues with his first coach. This is a lateral move at best, and the Oilers lose because JP will move to another team and break out. Both teams stay the course, but quit trying to act like Lehkonen is some.world beater in comparison.

Why is Puljujarvi such a lock to break out? I don't see it.

 

[GOilers88]

Why is Puljujarvi such a lock to break out? I don't see it.

Hes a lock to break out if the Oilers trade him because Oilers.

Stay the course, let Hitch do his thing and see where we end up. The one thing this organization has done for the last 15 years is hurry every first rounder they have into the NHL. Its a known fact.

Now some fans want to continue this tradition by trading a still budding, fresh faced 20 year old kid who is finally getting proper coaching and showing a decent two way game because if hes not elite by the time hes 20 he's a bust.

 

[Benstheman]

Puljujarvi for Cale Fleury

 

[Mike Dukarm]

Why trade Puljujarvi? He is young and need to be patient... If Chicarelli trade young players for saving his job and make the playoff.... so fire him before he destroy the team... or just fire him (he made numerous bad moves)

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

is he some kind of toxic kid like Duchene? what's the deal with Pulju ?

I would be ecstatic for a Kotka/Pulju line if Pulju can finally step up..

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

Puljujarvi for Cale Fleury

why would we trade the only good LHD we have in our system for a toxic bust winger.
you don't trade LHD for winger when LHD is our worst prospect pool

 

[Mike Dukarm]

Actually Fleury is RHD.. so with Brooks, Weber, Petry... we could trade Fleury

 

[FerrisRox]

Don't understand why Habs would take all the risk here.

Seriously? You don't understand why they would take all the risk? Maybe because they would get all the reward if he panned out?

 

[FerrisRox]

why would we trade the only good LHD we have in our system for a toxic bust winger.
you don't trade LHD for winger when LHD is our worst prospect pool

Maybe because he's not a LHD?

 

[ChaoticOrange]

why would we trade the only good LHD we have in our system for a toxic bust winger.
you don't trade LHD for winger when LHD is our worst prospect pool

Puljujarvi is toxic now?

He’s pretty well known in Edmonton for being a super nice person and always having time for fans. Teammates seem to like him just fine and Hitch has been very complimentary. What a bullshit narrative and a completely baseless accusation. Stop making up garbage.

Zero interest in Fleury. Watched him plenty in the WHL and his upside is a bottom pairing defenceman. Wouldn’t give a do-over third rounder for him. We’re not interested in your C grade prospects and you don’t seem to want to move anything with actual value.

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

Puljujarvi is toxic now?

He’s pretty well known in Edmonton for being a super nice person and always having time for fans. Teammates seem to like him just fine and Hitch has been very complimentary. What a bull**** narrative and a completely baseless accusation. Stop making up garbage.

Zero interest in Fleury. Watched him plenty in the WHL and his upside is a bottom pairing defenceman. Wouldn’t give a do-over third rounder for him. We’re not interested in your C grade prospects and you don’t seem to want to move anything with actual value.

Funny thing is, Edmonton seems to call their players Toxic a lot, Taylor hall, you remember ? and I've heard that Pulju is as much toxic ( laziness can be seen as Toxic) by your fan base.

 

[Mike Dukarm]

Just wondering... why is nickname is Poolparty?

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

Maybe because he's not a LHD?

he will be playing on the left, our right side is already stacked with Brook/weber/petry

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Funny thing is, Edmonton seems to call their players Toxic a lot, Taylor hall, you remember ? and I've heard that Pulju is as much toxic ( laziness can be seen as Toxic) by your fan base.

I have never seen a single Oiler fan anywhere call Puljujarvi toxic. The main complaint is his offensive awareness is lacking sometimes and he’s always gotten by on his physical tools but he’s learning and playing the right way under Hitchcock.

 

[FerrisRox]

he will be playing on the left, our right side is already stacked with Brook/weber/petry

You don't have the faintest idea what side he will be playing on if and when he makes the NHL, but right now, he plays on the right and is a right handed shot.

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

I have never seen a single Oiler fan anywhere call Puljujarvi toxic. The main complaint is his offensive awareness is lacking sometimes and he’s always gotten by on his physical tools but he’s learning and playing the right way under Hitchcock.

lmao, you must be blind to never have seen anyone on your board saying " Pulju is lazy and doesn't have a great work ethic".