soothsayer
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Strange. I just thought her songs were catchy and gave me a great chance to dance around the kitchen with my daughter.
A perfect example of priceless value
Strange. I just thought her songs were catchy and gave me a great chance to dance around the kitchen with my daughter.
The fundamental issue here(at least as far as I'm concerned) is not that an artist should be paid for their work, but with the notion that the value of art--value in general, in Swift's words--is expressed through a financial transaction. It's just not true. And the Rand connection is probably obvious.
I'd like to get into the Ayn Rand stuff ... but I have a feeling that wouldn't end well. Unless the mods are willing to grant us a little leeway during the dog days of summer
The major lesson of the history of the [objectivist] movement to libertarians is that It Can Happen Here, that libertarians, despite explicit devotion to reason and individuality, are not exempt from the mystical and totalitarian cultism that pervades other ideological as well as religious movements. Hopefully, libertarians, once bitten by the virus, may now prove immune.
I think you must have misread the quote. She never said her music was valuable (although its obviously implied).
Swift was making a general statement regarding art. And as we all know, art is a subjective business.
I agree with the general statement she made that artists (self defined) deserve to be paid for their work to the extent that the market is willing to pay.
Its been established for decades that you pay for music you like. Way back to the days of the 8-track.
Just because a new medium arises that makes it easy for people to cheat the artist out of his/her compensation, doesn't negate the principle that art isn't free.
I think Swift (and I know absolutely nothing about her, couldn't pick her out of a lineup of ten ladies, and couldn't identify any song that she sings) is well within her rights as an artist (self defined) who produces art for which there is a recognized and proven commercial market.
I'd like to get into the Ayn Rand stuff ... but I have a feeling that wouldn't end well. Unless the mods are willing to grant us a little leeway during the dog days of summer
Yeah, I've read every Ayn Rand work. I went to University ages ago. Could probably converse about Rand for awhile.
Anyway as far as downloading, music, movies etc if I like something I'm old fashioned I buy it and want to have it.
That said most bought CD's sound like crap and its the music industries fault they went to a format with a lot of loss from what could ideally be put out by studios. The average CD comes nowhere close as a format to capturing the actual studio recordings. So its a case of selling the public clear garbage and resting on a bad format for decades that has caused the decline. people simply download even their favorite artists because they get the same basic quality (****) with the download.
Allow people real audiophile recordings of their favorite artists and formats and players that can capture that and people would buy.
Interesting that Vinyl is making such a comeback. Reel to reel was far superior imo.
CD's are the worst format since 8 tracks imo. How the music industry has gone with this format for a quarter Century is beyond me.
Want people to buy the product? Offer quality recorded product. Plus artists worth hearing and buying. Simple.
Yeah, I've read every Ayn Rand work. I went to University ages ago. Could probably converse about Rand for awhile.
Anyway as far as downloading, music, movies etc if I like something I'm old fashioned I buy it and want to have it.
That said most bought CD's sound like crap and its the music industries fault they went to a format with a lot of loss from what could ideally be put out by studios. The average CD comes nowhere close as a format to capturing the actual studio recordings. So its a case of selling the public clear garbage and resting on a bad format for decades that has caused the decline. people simply download even their favorite artists because they get the same basic quality (****) with the download.
Allow people real audiophile recordings of their favorite artists and formats and players that can capture that and people would buy.
Interesting that Vinyl is making such a comeback. Reel to reel was far superior imo.
CD's are the worst format since 8 tracks imo. How the music industry has gone with this format for a quarter Century is beyond me.
Want people to buy the product? Offer quality recorded product. Plus artists worth hearing and buying. Simple.
i am a bit of an audiophile so I have strong opinions on this.
The reality is that the majority of music "listened" to today is through cheap earphones or in a noisy car environment. The quality of the recording is irrelevant in these conditions. Almost 49% of songs listened to today are skipped or stopped before they finish. There is very little engagement anymore.
The percentage of people who would pay for and appreciate higher quality formats is quite small. Current mp3 technology is suitable for the intended market and the usage habits of the typical consumer.