Confirmed with Link: [EDM/CHI] Keith for Jones and a 3rd

[Cloned]

He lost his spot to Boqvist this season, and he got as much offensive zone starts with Kane as his coach could give him and did nothing (his ice time this season may have just been out of respect, even though he was failing). So, I wouldn't worry about him taking anyone's PP time. To start, just gotta hope he can actually compete against 2nd/3rd liners which he failed to do this season.

He drowned against slightly above average competition last year and if he's paired with Larsson he will be facing tougher competition. It's not looking good.

 

[nabob]

Going to go on record as not being a fan of this trade as currently reported. Really hoping that the extras still to be reported is Seattle eating some of Keith’s cap hit, as part of them taking Jones from Chicago in the expansion draft. I dunno. Not in the mood to post as this trade ruined a really good day.

 

[Little Fury]

Got as many as Maroon and at a fraction of the cost.

Hell, Henri Richard had 12, let's just bring in a hologram of him for the dressing room.

 

[syz]

Are the Oilers even going to have anybody to pair him with that can come close to bailing him out? I didn't hate Larsson last year but even if he's re-signed I don't see him being able to drag Keith around. You can't put him with Nurse because Nurse is literally the only option against high quality competition right now and you don't want Keith in those situations.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Numbers said Draisaitl wasn't even a top 20 player in the league when he won the Hart, magic said he was #1

There's value in 'magic' and it's starting to be quantified. Baseball's 'David Ross' effect has led, in part, to re-looking at placing value on intangibles like leadership and experience: What Baseball Can Teach Us About Team Chemistry – RealTime Performance

I think Keith the player is an okay add for the winning experience and leadership intangibles for what is a still young core group that need more help in that regard (even if Alpha Goalie returns). I think the reduced workload to second and third pair d will also help Keith reset on a new team removed from his past team leading ice-time and glory days memories for all around him.

The trade itself sucks with no retention and including a draft pick on top.

EDIT: Now reading the conditional 3rd round could become a 2nd makes this trade even more ludicrously dumb with the Oilers bidding against themselves; Seattle picking Keith in expansion; or Chicago either protecting Keith from expansion draft; letting him go to Seattle; or buying him out with cap consequences. Oilers got taken badly on this.

 

[Del Preston]

notice how he is 6 years younger in that photo and is wearing a blackhawks jersey

I see nothing gets past you.

 

[Cloned]

My pic cheers me up more.

 

[PULSATING]

"I wish the Oilers would acquire a Norris winning defenseman this summer"

monkey paw curls

 

[Cloned]

I like the way the dog is drooling. I can't unsee that.

Must be like looking in a mirror.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Everyone and their dog thought the Drai contract was brutal when signed, and some people still argue Drai isn't a top player analytically.

Well, not the case at all. Many of us loved the Drai contract and figured it was a good one. I mean those that recognized much in the player.

 

[HLLYWD99]

 

[The Safe Play]

Lol Oilers were Keith's first choice and you can't negotiate a better deal. f***ing yikes.

 

[Cloned]

"I wish the Oilers would acquire a Norris winning defenseman this summer"

monkey paw curls

Can today end with a giant reset button like it does at the end of every Simpsons episode?

 

[McJadeddog]

At least we're not England.

England managed to get to a final, and has a good young team. We won't win another round for at least a couple more years now, and just traded for a 38 year old who is barely an NHL player anymore. I'll take England's spot please/thanks.

 

[Oilhawks]

Well they have 5.5m to improve on Keith in free agency.

Interesting, maybe they’ll give it to Ryan Murray then

 

[Bring Back Bucky]

This is f***ing atrocious. I am mortified that Holland could get schooled like this. Unbelievable.

 

[PULSATING]

Can today end with a giant reset button like it does at the end of every Simpsons episode?

Being an Oiler fan is kind of like Groundhog day but everyday is the Hall trade

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Hell, Henri Richard had 12, let's just bring in a hologram of him for the dressing room.

I've got a few pictures of myself with the Cup. Sign me up.

 

[Cloned]

England managed to get to a final, and has a good young team. We won't win another round for at least a couple more years now, and just traded for a 38 year old who is barely an NHL player anymore. I'll take England's spot please/thanks.

England is more the Canucks anyway. Jack Grealish = Elias Pettersson

 

[belair]

That is a fair argument against those stats. It really is, isolation is by far the weak point for those stats. WOWY isolates though, and WOWY shows that all of Keith's partners played better away from him, than with him. How do you explain that?

I can't answer that because I know very little of Chicago's roster. I can't provide any context. How did the team generate the majority of their goals? Was he out there with scoring lines or is he out there with depth forwards? The situation is going to have a more significant impact to the player's results than his defensive partner.

It'd be easier to 'play better' with Pat Kane than it would with Duncan Keith, would it not? Odds are we're looking at some very situational stats that could change drastically in a different environment.

 

[The Safe Play]

I've NEVER seen a team get bent over this hard when a player wants a trade and can ultimately pick the location. It should have been Chicago's first and Keith for Jones.

Look at what Toronto paid to dump 1 year of Marleau.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Must be like looking in a mirror.

Not gonna lie..

life is still good.

Sun still rises

something something

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Lol Oilers were Keith's first choice and you can't negotiate a better deal. f***ing yikes.

Ball was in Holland's court and it hit him in the nuts.

 

[McDoused]

 

[Drivesaitl]

England managed to get to a final, and has a good young team. We won't win another round for at least a couple more years now, and just traded for a 38 year old who is barely an NHL player anymore. I'll take England's spot please/thanks.

I was trying to be flippant and funny. Don't make me feel worse with the analytics...heh

ps I HATE this deal. I think I might have mentioned that once or twice.