Proposal: Edm-Car

[staalgood]

I am sure there will be a gm you can fleece for Faulk, he does play a sought after position. What about a prospect swap, like:
To Carolina: Yamamoto, Caleb Jones
To Edmonton: Roland Mackeown, Brock McGinn, either Foegle or Mattheos, and a 3rd?

Jones holds no real value to us, we have a ton of defensive prospects. Yamamoto is not really a need either. When we draft Svech, he and TT lock up our top 6 right side. Throw in Williams on RW and Lindholm & Necas will play RW if not at center. McGinn also has a lot of time at RW.

I think McGinn & Foegele are no go's from me. I love the energy they play with and they can score a little. Ideal 3rd liners that can bump up or down the lineup for short periods.

 

[DaJackal]

If Faulk and Skinner would have good contracts for a couple of years, this trade would be a good one - possibly for both teams.

Given their contract situation in real life, this trade would be horrible.

 

[staalgood]

Carolina needs a top 6 center, preferable a 1C. They could also use a top 6 LW, but not as vital. In goal is a HUGE concern. The Canes have depth, so spare parts aren't really needed.

 

[staalgood]

What about this craziness:

To CAR:
Draisatl
Puljujarvi
10OA

To EDM:
Faulk
Necas
2OA


Hurts both teams, but perhaps meets both team's needs, CAR's in the short term and EDM in the long term. EDM takes bigger gamble by giving up the most established and valuable piece but bets on basically 2 top10 NHL prospects to make up for the loss of Draisatl. They also get their elusive RHD for their PP. Svechnikov and McDavid would be scary. Necas probably develops into an ideal #2C.

CAR gets their #1C and bets on PoolParty hitting his potential with Aho/Teravainen, 10OA hopefully makes up for the sting of losing Necas AND Svechnikov/Zadina from the prospect pool.

Probably way off, but it hurts and potentially really helps both teams...

As a CAR fan, not really sure I'd do it, and certainly could see an EDM fan thinking the same...

This is one that makes me think for a while. Carolina adds salary, but addresses their 1C issue. I don't know, but it definitely gets me thinking of departing with Svech & Necas.

 

[tarheelhockey]

EDM CAR

 

[GoldiFox]

EDM CAR

Highest Bass

 

[tarheelhockey]

Highest Bass

 

[MinJaBen]

I am sure there will be a gm you can fleece for Faulk, he does play a sought after position. What about a prospect swap, like:
To Carolina: Yamamoto, Caleb Jones
To Edmonton: Roland Mackeown, Brock McGinn, either Foegle or Mattheos, and a 3rd?

Holy-Overvaluing-Your-Own-Prospects Batman!

We are sending you four prieces for your two, including a ready for the NHL RHD and a guy who just scored 15 goals in the NHL?!? I don't think so.

 

[MinJaBen]

What about this craziness:

To CAR:
Draisatl
Puljujarvi
10OA

To EDM:
Faulk
Necas
2OA

Woof! This is good, and I'm not sure I say no. Also not sure I say yes as I am not sure that there is need for a center outside the organization with Necas and Aho potentially filling that position. I'd painfully pass, I think, even though I really like Draisaitl.

 

[OnanTheBarbarian]

Holy-Overvaluing-Your-Own-Prospects Batman!

We are sending you four prieces for your two, including a ready for the NHL RHD and a guy who just scored 15 goals in the NHL?!? I don't think so.

But the keystone from our end is a guy drafted 22nd overall who tore up the whl in the second half of the season, but if it lubes the tubes, I am willing to throw in Caggiula to mitigate the loss of McGinn, or you can have Al’s yer Pal Montoya.

 

[OnanTheBarbarian]

What about this craziness:

To CAR:
Draisatl
Puljujarvi
10OA

To EDM:
Faulk
Necas
2OA


Hurts both teams, but perhaps meets both team's needs, CAR's in the short term and EDM in the long term. EDM takes bigger gamble by giving up the most established and valuable piece but bets on basically 2 top10 NHL prospects to make up for the loss of Draisatl. They also get their elusive RHD for their PP. Svechnikov and McDavid would be scary. Necas probably develops into an ideal #2C.

CAR gets their #1C and bets on PoolParty hitting his potential with Aho/Teravainen, 10OA hopefully makes up for the sting of losing Necas AND Svechnikov/Zadina from the prospect pool.

Probably way off, but it hurts and potentially really helps both teams...

As a CAR fan, not really sure I'd do it, and certainly could see an EDM fan thinking the same...

It is sheer madness...yet it does hold some appeal, Drai is a beast who can play c or wing, so it would automatically give you a forward core that most teams would be envious of...I am still not sold on Faulk though...so hows about you give us Jake Bean as insurance and we will top it up with something too?

 

[RodTheBawd]

I love the "declining Faulk" narrative around here. I'm sure he'll continue to shoot at a 3.8% clip the rest of his career. Such a toxic asset.

 

[GoldiFox]

I love the "declining Faulk" narrative around here. I'm sure he'll continue to shoot at a 3.8% clip the rest of his career. Such a toxic asset.

Once a defender hits 25 it’s all downhill from there. Tale as old as time, poor little Faulker.

 

[LakeLivin]

What about this craziness:

To CAR:
Draisatl
Puljujarvi
10OA

To EDM:
Faulk
Necas
2OA


Hurts both teams, but perhaps meets both team's needs, CAR's in the short term and EDM in the long term. EDM takes bigger gamble by giving up the most established and valuable piece but bets on basically 2 top10 NHL prospects to make up for the loss of Draisatl. They also get their elusive RHD for their PP. Svechnikov and McDavid would be scary. Necas probably develops into an ideal #2C.

CAR gets their #1C and bets on PoolParty hitting his potential with Aho/Teravainen, 10OA hopefully makes up for the sting of losing Necas AND Svechnikov/Zadina from the prospect pool.

Probably way off, but it hurts and potentially really helps both teams...

As a CAR fan, not really sure I'd do it, and certainly could see an EDM fan thinking the same...

Oil probably only move Drai for a gross overpayment and same for Canes with Svech. I don't see either biting on a "fair" trade.

 

[ArchAngel55]

What’s that make them?

Absolutely nothing.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I am sure there will be a gm you can fleece for Faulk, he does play a sought after position. What about a prospect swap, like:
To Carolina: Yamamoto, Caleb Jones
To Edmonton: Roland Mackeown, Brock McGinn, either Foegle or Mattheos, and a 3rd?

Why would edmonton even remotely consider that? There are a dozen free agent wingers that bring what McGinn does.

Yamamoto looks like he will at bare minimum be a good 2nd liner in the Zuccarello mould and I think Jones has top 4 upside. Just let them develop.

 

[OnanTheBarbarian]

Why would edmonton even remotely consider that? There are a dozen free agent wingers that bring what McGinm does o

McGinn isn’t the focal point of the trade just a plug and play who I happen to like. The trade would be more about getting more and varied prospects.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

McGinn isn’t the focal point of the trade just a plug and play who I happen to like. The trade would be more about getting more and varied prospects.

It’s quality for quantity. Jones is every bit as good as McKeown and you’re dealing Yamo
for a third liner and meh.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

What about this craziness:

To CAR:
Draisatl
Puljujarvi
10OA

To EDM:
Faulk
Necas
2OA


Hurts both teams, but perhaps meets both team's needs, CAR's in the short term and EDM in the long term. EDM takes bigger gamble by giving up the most established and valuable piece but bets on basically 2 top10 NHL prospects to make up for the loss of Draisatl. They also get their elusive RHD for their PP. Svechnikov and McDavid would be scary. Necas probably develops into an ideal #2C.

CAR gets their #1C and bets on PoolParty hitting his potential with Aho/Teravainen, 10OA hopefully makes up for the sting of losing Necas AND Svechnikov/Zadina from the prospect pool.

Probably way off, but it hurts and potentially really helps both teams...

As a CAR fan, not really sure I'd do it, and certainly could see an EDM fan thinking the same...

Not interested. Edmonton gets significantly worse today and while Necas and Svechnikov are nice prospects that’s all they are - just prospects. Rolls of the dice. Edmonton cannot gamble with Draisaitl. He’s the known quantity here.

 

[OnanTheBarbarian]

It’s quality for quantity. Jones is every bit as good as McKeown and you’re dealing Yamo
for a third liner and meh.

I am not blown away by Jones, and he is a lefty, which we have more than a few of, so I would prefer McKeown who is arguably closer to being nhl ready, I like Stelio Mattheos’ game, and he is also a righty, something we once again have a dearth of. Ideally I would want Necas Teravainan or Hanifin, but those pieces aren’t coming our way. I just think our prospect pool is sad and filled with floaters so I would like to snag some horses from someone else’s stable

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I am not blown away by Jones, and he is a lefty, which we have more than a few of, so I would prefer McKeown who is arguably closer to being nhl ready, I like Stelio Mattheos’ game, and he is also a righty, something we once again have a dearth of. Ideally I would want Necas Teravainan or Hanifin, but those pieces aren’t coming our way. I just think our prospect pool is sad and filled with floaters so I would like to snag some horses from someone else’s stable

Then why go after ponies?

You clearly see something in Mattheos that I just don’t. I think he’s an NHL longshot, whereas Yamamoto is much more of a sure thing.

I also think you’ll see Caleb Jones in the Oilers lineup a lot sooner than you think. I know people that follow Bakersfield pretty closely and he was an absolute horse once he got accustomed to the shift in play levels and the increased speed. If Bako had any forwards at all to speak of he’d have seen his points increase by 50%. His skating and passing are very, very good.

Like I said I think Jones and McKeown are not far off. If you want to give McKeown the edge for handedness and closer to NHL ready - because he’s older - that’s fine, but even if they’re close Yamamoto for McGinn Mattheos and a 3rd is... really bad, dude.

You don’t rebuild your prospect pool by trading two of your top five prospects for McKeown and pieces that are just okay.

 

[staalgood]

Then why go after ponies?

You clearly see something in Mattheos that I just don’t. I think he’s an NHL longshot, whereas Yamamoto is much more of a sure thing.

I also think you’ll see Caleb Jones in the Oilers lineup a lot sooner than you think. I know people that follow Bakersfield pretty closely and he was an absolute horse once he got accustomed to the shift in play levels and the increased speed. If Bako had any forwards at all to speak of he’d have seen his points increase by 50%. His skating and passing are very, very good.

Like I said I think Jones and McKeown are not far off. If you want to give McKeown the edge for handedness and closer to NHL ready - because he’s older - that’s fine, but even if they’re close Yamamoto for McGinn Mattheos and a 3rd is... really bad, dude.

Don't worry, Carolina wouldn't do this trade either. The parts offered to Carolina have zero use in Raleigh. McGinn isn't great, but he fits our needs more than the two Oilers offered.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

McGinn is no slouch here. At 23/24, he hit 16 goals last season mainly at EV with a shooting percentage that didn’t deviate much from his prior career average. He brings some jam to the lineup and takes a regular shift on the PK. McGinn has 1 year left on his contract at < $1 mil and is a RFA at the conclusion of his deal. He's a solid asset.

 

[OnanTheBarbarian]

Then why go after ponies?

You clearly see something in Mattheos that I just don’t. I think he’s an NHL longshot, whereas Yamamoto is much more of a sure thing.

I also think you’ll see Caleb Jones in the Oilers lineup a lot sooner than you think. I know people that follow Bakersfield pretty closely and he was an absolute horse once he got accustomed to the shift in play levels and the increased speed. If Bako had any forwards at all to speak of he’d have seen his points increase by 50%. His skating and passing are very, very good.

Like I said I think Jones and McKeown are not far off. If you want to give McKeown the edge for handedness and closer to NHL ready - because he’s older - that’s fine, but even if they’re close Yamamoto for McGinn Mattheos and a 3rd is... really bad, dude.

You don’t rebuild your prospect pool by trading two of your top five prospects for McKeown and pieces that are just okay.

I will concede it is an overpayment, and if as you say Jones is closer to nhl ready than I have heard then bully for us, offer rescinded. But as I see it the oilers don’t have many assets to use, so if we can take a Yamamoto and squeeze a roster upgrade out of him then I am all for it. I just want the depth a little deeper and we don’t have much to barter with.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Don't worry, Carolina wouldn't do this trade either. The parts offered to Carolina have zero use in Raleigh. McGinn isn't great, but he fits our needs more than the two Oilers offered.

Like I said, there are about a dozen guys available in free agency that bring what McGinn does. I don’t see any point in trading for him with guys like Ward, Comeau, Hansen, Komarov, Maroon, Calvert, etc etc etc out there available for nothing but contracts.

Great that he’s found a fit there but Edmonton would be pretty dumb to trade the likes of Yamamoto or Jones for him. That’d be like you guys trading Roy or Gauthier our way for the likes of Strome or Caggiula.