KeithIsActuallyBad
You thrust your pelvis, huh!
Well good thing we're on track to make the playoffs again so Strome can no doubt win the Conn Smythe along with his good buddy Captain Space.
Confirmed with Link: Eberle for Strome: Part 2
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nexttothemoon
and again...
I'll bet Strome at least scores one of those things that Eberle's never scored in the playoffs if Strome does make the playoffs again.
Eberle is working on getting a green jacket already as well... team leading minus will have him in peak form when he's golfing in April.
McShogun99
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It's lateral because his 6M is used on Strome and another player at the deadline
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KeithIsActuallyBad
You thrust your pelvis, huh!
No guarantee it's a top 6 winger, or anything we need. Or that anyone good will even be available.
Oilers could get Rieder, Strome, Grabner for the price of Ebs. Lol Its really up to Chia at this point. Those players aren't hard to get and they would help this team tremendously
KeithIsActuallyBad
You thrust your pelvis, huh!
Or they could get Dahlin if you know what I mean.
Think of what we picked up last year and what we gave up.
Throttlehead
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Any legit top 6 winger will cost us 5-6 mil, I think Chia was hoping to fill spots till the young guys can play, he seems to be a year or so off.
It was needed because of the uncertainty regarding the Draisaitl extension. We were under the threat of a possible offer-sheet which would've negatively impacted our long-term cap situation. Also covered ad-nauseum.
We don't need a winger. We need a player to drive a secondary scoring line. Until we get that we will always be bottlenecked by a Jekyl/Hyde offence.
None of Eberle, RNH, Lucic, Strome, Jokinen, etc. are the answer to that problem. They're not good enough to drive a line, none of them, which means teams can just fixate solely on McDavid's line, and beyond that of the 2/4 of them (Lucic and Eberle) they don't play well with McDavid so they can't be played there either.
None of Eberle, RNH, Lucic, Strome, Jokinen, etc. are the answer to that problem. They're not good enough to drive a line, none of them, which means teams can just fixate solely on McDavid's line, and beyond that of the 2/4 of them (Lucic and Eberle) they don't play well with McDavid so they can't be played there either.
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KeithIsActuallyBad
You thrust your pelvis, huh!
The reality is that no, we really weren't. And if someone paid Draisatl more than we did, then see you in the funny pages, Leon.
The offer sheet is the invisible boogeyman of the NHL. Most teams aren't desperate or stupid enough to do it. And he really isn't playing like a 8.5 million dollar player so far this year.
Drai is making 8.5M because McDavid is making 12.5M(yes I'm aware his deal hasn't kicked in yet). If McDavid took 10M, then there's no way Drai could have asked for 8.5M
I've said this before, no one in the league should be making 10M+
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Why should players take 13% of the 20% of the cap that they are allowed?
Seems very arbitrary that 10m is always the max as well, yet everything else continues to rise.
Team success over individual success.
This whole idea that McDavid is a max player is so silly. Yes I know I'm going to get flamed for saying this. But he would need to bring it and put the Oilers in a position every night to be worth 12.5M, let alone max. McDavid is worth 12.5M from a business POV but on ice he's more of a 10M player.
Rehabguy
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Yep. And while I can understand the earlier signing of McDavid, I can't understand the 8.5 M/yr Drai signing so early in his career. Most players start signing big contracts like that in their mid twenties- around 27. There's not enough years under Drai's belt to see what he is worth, with McDavid that was obvious, but Drai? Eberle put up nearly identical numbers as Drai at the same age without McDavid and by comparison his 6 million/yr seems like a bargain. Also, I can't understand the ingratitude by Oilers fans for the good numbers Eberle put up during the darkest years and maybe being the only reason to still watch the team only to turn on him because of one bad playoff performance.
This is what people don't get. It wasn't a talent for talent trade or a need for need trade like the Hall/Larsson deal, this was a cap clearing deal plain and simple. Eberle's 2yrs $12M off the books and get a warm body who scored 50 points once upon a time and has the versatility to play center and wing. If it doesn't work out, oh well. They free up $3.5M of cap flexibility this season and $6M next season to fill in the roster as need be.
This trade is an incomplete until we see what Chia does with the cap space. As far as pure player value is concerned, the Oilers lose (duh) but trades are rarely that simple.
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I've been saying the same thing, he's not Gretzky. Doesn't have the otherworldly complete skill set to carry the team on his back.
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The "oh well" might mean at worse return to bottom dwelling or at best languish in mediocrity unable to rebuild because you have neither the assets, cap space or high draft picks to rebuild the team. Eberle added depth to the Oilers offense that took pressure off of McDavid's line. He was always a scoring threat. Take him away and teams only have to concentrate on one line. Contain McDavid's line, and they're done.
So in other words, just like last year.
Eberle wasn't always a scoring threat last year, he clearly wasn't the same player that he was the previous year and I believe that was in part to him not wanting to be here anymore IMO.
Again, Eberle is a better player than Strome and I don't think anybody is disputing that. This is a trade with many layers like I outlined above.
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at least we are seeing the effect that not having eberle on the team has caused. no one on the ice is worried about where strome is, except his own linemates. Defenders have no fear of him. Eberle ALWAYS had to be accounted for whenever the puck was on an oilers stick because if you left him alone for a second he would score. it helps the PP and it helps secondary scoring, but nah lets just forget about the times he scored 30+ goals and lets all have faith that Cap Space will fill the void that strome obviously cant fill.
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The Oilers were a one line team last year as well. The 2nd line didn't wake up until about the 60 game mark, and thank god they did, but then they went to sleep again in the playoffs. Eberle wouldn't have moved the needle much.
Again, Eberle is not the same player he used to be and this trade was made for multiple reasons, not just player for player reasons.
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