Player Discussion: dylan samberg

[10Ducky10]

Enough.

Just for you I will start marking down on a calendar when I see each individual player play and I will send it out to you.

His stats speak for themselves.

touchy much? I asked a simple question?
65-70 point player as the 2C if we keep the wingers we have now.

 

[Atoyot]

So just to be clear, and sorry if it's already been covered, if the season does resume he is ineligible to play, correct?

 

[BatVader]

So just to be clear, and sorry if it's already been covered, if the season does resume he is ineligible to play, correct?

Depending on how they arrange playoff eligibility, it might be better if he doesn’t.

 

[macmaroon]

Welcome to Winnipeg Dylan! Great to have you on board!

 

[jgimp]

Has your wife seen this thread by any chance???

thankfully? No...

 

[Flair Hay]

Agree 100%
With Samberg and Heinola coming up, Niku is expendable and at his age and position, valuable in trade.
I’d look at packaging him with our 1st and a young forward for a 2C

Agree that we should make that move. I'm not sure that gets it done. I dont think Niku is as valued around the league as he is to us. Maybe he should be. Niku has an awesome set of tools to work with.

Roslovic + Niku + 1st is going to be the Jets meme in the trade forum for a 2C

 

[Flair Hay]

Agree 100%
With Samberg and Heinola coming up, Niku is expendable and at his age and position, valuable in trade.
I’d look at packaging him with our 1st and a young forward for a 2C

Agree that we should make that move. I'm not sure that gets it done. I dont think Niku is as valued around the league as he is to us. Maybe he should be. Niku has an awesome set of tools to work with.

Roslovic + Niku + 1st is going to be the Jets meme in the trade forum for a 2C

 

[Daximus]

Agree that we should make that move. I'm not sure that gets it done. I dont think Niku is as valued around the league as he is to us. Maybe he should be. Niku has an awesome set of tools to work with.

Roslovic + Niku + 1st is going to be the Jets meme in the trade forum for a 2C

Yeah wishful thinking. No team in their right mind is giving up a 2C for that package. Though GMs arent always in their right minds. Any team with a good top 6 C is probably looking for a stable top 4 defencemen. Though maybe we get lucky and a ROR type of trade lands in our laps.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Yeah I'd definitely qualify Niku. When I say he's the next Petan I don't really mean that. I think he is more likely to be an NHL regular. I just don't think it will be on the Jets. I'd still like to add someone like Parayko (I know fat chance ) but a big guy with good skill is what we've lost in spades and what we need to get back. I know that Samberg will likely be that guy eventually but we need someone to fill in the gap.

I didn't say I wouldn't qualify Niku. I said I wouldn't give him a raise as suggested. He certainly did not earn a raise.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Enough.

Just for you I will start marking down on a calendar when I see each individual player play and I will send it out to you.

His stats speak for themselves.

???? You mean his avg 60 pts per 82 games for his career playing mostly on sh**ty teams? Those stats?

5th in his draft class in scoring is pretty good. Doesn't live up to his draft position but that doesn't make him garbage.

 

[TS Quint]

???? You mean his avg 60 pts per 82 games for his career playing mostly on sh**ty teams? Those stats?

5th in his draft class in scoring is pretty good. Doesn't live up to his draft position but that doesn't make him garbage.

Those points come with playing with good players. What's your explanation for so many players being worse with him than without?

There is very little context to just looking at his points vs his draft class. Are you really taking RNH before Huberdeau, Couturier, Zib, or Karlsson?

Guys like Anthanasiou and Galchenyuk are also examples of players that can put up points but are not a net positive. Points aren't everything.

 

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[TS Quint]

touchy much? I asked a simple question?
65-70 point player as the 2C if we keep the wingers we have now.

How do you guarantee those points? He's not playing with McDavid, Leon or Hall. He could revert to a 45 point player again. Maybe 50 something. Either way he needs to be dragged up by a superstar at least if history is an indication.

 

[sipowicz]

Lets just hope the Samberg hype lives up to expectations, unfortunately it didn't for either Poolman or Niku. Time will tell for Samberg who was arguably the second best D man on Minnesota -Duluth last season!

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Those points come with playing with good players. What's your explanation for so many players being worse with him than without?

There is very little context to just looking at his points vs his draft class. Are you really taking RNH before Huberdeau, Couturier, Zib, or Karlsson?

Guys like Anthanasiou and Galchenyuk are also examples of players that can put up points but are not a net positive. Points aren't everything.

Of course points aren't everything and no, I'm not necessarily going to automatically take players strictly by that measure. But points are a broad overall measure.

He didn't always play with good players. Far from it. I don't know that "so many players were worse with him than without". I can't read those those charts of yours.

He is not garbage.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

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[jgimp]

Lets just hope the Samberg hype lives up to expectations, unfortunately it didn't for either Poolman or Niku. Time will tell for Samberg who was arguably the second best D man on Minnesota -Duluth last season!

How is/was Perunovich with his defensive game with MD? I know he racks up points but am curious as to whether it effects his defensive ability.

 

[Whileee]

How is/was Perunovich with his defensive game with MD? I know he racks up points but am curious as to whether it effects his defensive ability.

As I recall, Samberg led UMD in ice time this season.

 

[Joe Hallenback]

How is/was Perunovich with his defensive game with MD? I know he racks up points but am curious as to whether it effects his defensive ability.

He was good at UMD but I thought at the world juniors he was just ok, where as Samberg was the US best D that year. I like Perunovich though and I think he will be a solid NHLer.

 

[ps241]

Lets just hope the Samberg hype lives up to expectations, unfortunately it didn't for either Poolman or Niku. Time will tell for Samberg who was arguably the second best D man on Minnesota -Duluth last season!

I hope so Sip. We have players like Pionk, Appleton, Copp, and Harkins who have all exceeded "reasonable" expectations recently so we will see with Dylan.

 

[jgimp]

He was good at UMD but I thought at the world juniors he was just ok, where as Samberg was the US best D that year. I like Perunovich though and I think he will be a solid NHLer.

I remember Samberg working his way up the lineup as the tournament wore on. He was by far the best “defender”, but have to admit I wasn’t paying too much attention to Perunovich.
Im definitely ok with a minute munching shut down defender to can play against top lines. I’m hoping Samberg can live up to our expectations.

 

[Gil Fisher]

I hope so Sip. We have players like Pionk, Appleton, Copp, and Harkins who have all exceeded "reasonable" expectations recently so we will see with Dylan.

In addition, there wasn't much hype for late rounders Poolman and Niku at the time they signed their ELCs. In fact, there has never been much hype for Poolman to be more than a bottom pairing guy.