Proposal: Duclair+ for top4 RHD

[Antonche]

For whom?

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[WhoTagz]

How about we give you Staal and 50% retained and you give us a 7th

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

I'd be surprised if Duclair got Arizona a top 4 D man, He just doesn't have that kind of value.

 

[Benstheman]

Duclair for Jordie Benn and a 3rd

 

[Liferleafer]

For whom?

I am just saying this for reference, any time we as Leafs fans talk about a top 4D, we are generally told it will cost Nylander or Marner with sometimes a plus. So, what plus are you adding to Duclair?

 

[rent free]

no team will give up a top-4 dman for duclair+.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

I am just saying this for reference, any time we as Leafs fans talk about a top 4D, we are generally told it will cost Nylander or Marner with sometimes a plus. So, what plus are you adding to Duclair?

Your fanbase doesn't ask for a top 4 though, you always ask for the teams best Dman, which is responded to by asking for one of you best forwards, it does make sense.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

no team will give up a top-4 dman for duclair+.

I’d give them Larsson for Chychrun + Duclair

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I’d give them Larsson for Chychrun + Duclair

I wouldn't. Duclair is an inconsistent third line winger.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

I wouldn't. Duclair is an inconsistent third line winger.

Even inconsistent, he’s an upgrade on the bottom 6. Chychrun while less proven has high two way potential and maybe we could even get another asset.

 

[Joel Ward]

Even inconsistent, he’s an upgrade on the bottom 6. Chychrun while less proven has high two way potential and maybe we could even get another asset.

Why would you want even less cost assurance and stability on the backend? Duclair is not going to solve Edmontons scoring woes.

 

[mouser]

Agreed, Duclair doesn't have enough value to be the primary asset in acquiring a top 4 D, RHD or LHD.

Moving Chychrun as the primary piece for Larsson doesn't make much sense for Arizona.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Even inconsistent, he’s an upgrade on the bottom 6. Chychrun while less proven has high two way potential and maybe we could even get another asset.

That doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Trading a proven, stable, cost controlled #2 guy like Larsson to get younger, less proven, and less cost controlled just seems like hucking stuff at the wall and hoping it sticks.

 

[GuyBoucherEvilGenius]

I saw someone in another thread suggest

Duclair + Schenn for Ceci

That could be something both teams might be interested in.

Ottawa fans want to move Ceci in a package for something better, but I don't think he has that type of value due to his lack of offense. He's more of a Hamonic type defenseman.

I think you're more realistically looking at deals for other under performing former top prospects (Duclair, Brock Nelson, Reinhart, Bennett, etc.)

 

[rent free]

I’d give them Larsson for Chychrun + Duclair

Why? Isn't larsson a better fit for Edmonton?

 

[Gecklund]

What are you willing to add to Duclair? Depending on what, Braun might be available.

 

[One Winged Angel]

Heeeeeyyyyeeyyyyyyy Marc Staal, oooooohhh aahhhhh I wanna knowwwwww if you'll waive your no trade clause.

 

[Chainshot]

Matt Tennyson was pulling down 20 minutes a night for the Sabres early in the season.

Wait.... wait... where are you going? Hello? Top 4! Hello?

 

[mikeyp24]

I am just saying this for reference, any time we as Leafs fans talk about a top 4D, we are generally told it will cost Nylander or Marner with sometimes a plus. So, what plus are you adding to Duclair?

Because you ask for a guy playing #3 minutes that should be top pairing or flat out ask for top pairing then say they aren' good enough to be your top pairing so you should get them for 2nd pair price. I've never seen you ask for a Jack Johnson and someone say Marner+.

 

[Neiler]

Why not take on someone with a bad contract and get a good deal on them as a result? You guys have a ridiculous amount of free cap.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Why? Isn't larsson a better fit for Edmonton?

Edmonton needs more scoring from the bottom 6 and the defence. This move addresses the lack of scoring.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Edmonton needs more scoring from the bottom 6 and the defence. This move addresses the lack of scoring.

Opens up a much bigger issue, though. Duclair is meh and Chychrun can not come close to replacing what Larsson brings. Not now and maybe never.

 

[rt]

What are you willing to add to Duclair? Depending on what, Braun might be available.

We'll accept Boedker with no retention.

Duclair+Schenn for Boedker+Braun?

 

[Gecklund]

We'll accept Boedker with no retention.

Duclair+Schenn for Boedker+Braun?

No need for Schenn. Also doubt we use Braun to move Boedker. We have cap space. I was thinking more of a pick/prospect in addition to Duclair

 

[rt]

No need for Schenn. Also doubt we use Braun to move Boedker. We have cap space. I was thinking more of a pick/prospect in addition to Duclair

A Boedker dump is worth at least a 2nd. Even then, I can't imagine a team taking his contract for a 2nd without some other obvious benefit to that team.

Schenn was very effective last season for the last staff. I suspect he'd be an effective player in San Jose. He obviously has no trade value but I think for the Sharks, as they're assembled and deployed, he'd be a worthy 6th D.

Duclair has been given shit linemates, the coaching run around, undeserved scratches and is still on pace for 20 goals. As a fan, I hate the idea of trading him. My strong preference would be to put him on the 1st line, the top PP unit, and give him every chance to take the next step. Our coaching staff obviously has other ideas. What's his trade value? Certainly not as high as it should be. Probably a 2nd? He's a hell of a lot more valuable than that in my opinion. But is suspect his trade value is about a 2nd.

Is Braun worth more than the value of two 2nds? Probably. How much more is the question, right?